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axel 09-03-2007 05:50 PM

how did i play?
 
Seat 1: gnotgnot ($66.80)
Seat 2: woodleb ($58.15)
Seat 3: Tyyne ($0), is sitting out
Seat 4: Lumpfish13 ($129)
Seat 5: SJR0084 ($17)
Seat 6: hero ($98)
Seat 7: Atomic Drop ($20)
Seat 8: aabomb09 ($85.05)
Seat 9: panzerjohn ($247.05)
aabomb09 posts the small blind of $0.50
panzerjohn posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Th Kc As 7s]
gnotgnot folds
woodleb calls $1
Tyyne stands up
Lumpfish13 has 15 seconds left to act
Lumpfish13 folds
SJR0084 folds
IBETTERBET adds $25
hero raises to $4.50

with position is it ok to rais with this hand?

aabomb09 has 15 seconds left to act
aabomb09 has been disconnected
SJR0084 stands up
olei66 sits down
aabomb09 has 90 seconds to reconnect
olei66 adds $20
aabomb09 has reconnected
aabomb09 has 15 seconds left to act
aabomb09 folds
panzerjohn calls $3.50
woodleb folds
*** FLOP *** [7d 7c Ks]
panzerjohn has 15 seconds left to act
panzerjohn checks
hero has 15 seconds left to act
hero bets $10

can i slowplay it?

is check an opption?

panzerjohn has 15 seconds left to act
panzerjohn folds
Uncalled bet of $10 returned to hero
hero mucks
hero wins the pot ($10)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.50 | Rake $0.50
Board: [7d 7c Ks]

donkeykong2 09-03-2007 06:49 PM

Re: how did i play?
 
i think a bet is good, as every 7 will at least call you and everything else will fold/not bet anyway. you can bet less than pot though as it s not a scary board where you would need to protect anything.

original_red 09-03-2007 06:59 PM

Re: how did i play?
 
hand converter: http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/

I'd lead out with a weakish "scared" c-bet (a lill less than half the pot.. you want your opponent to believe he has fold-equity), praying for a raise.. if called or raised, I would call, and make a "fake lock-bet" when/if the board 2 flush on turn.. maybe you'll get him to push on you... if you are lucky...
If he has missed (probably he has) you'd get no action by playing strong.. villain will just move on... try luring him into the darkness... checking could also be an option here, but it really comes down to your opponent and his style of play I think.. you have a well disguised hand.. let your opponent think he can take this down somehow... or try at least [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

axel 09-03-2007 07:16 PM

Re: how did i play?
 
thx

Ribbo 09-03-2007 08:12 PM

Re: how did i play?
 
KK7 you can give a free card with K7 in hand. K77 you cannot give a free card with K7 in hand. The difference should be apparant.

piiop 09-03-2007 08:18 PM

Re: how did i play?
 
[ QUOTE ]
KK7 you can give a free card with K7 in hand. K77 you cannot give a free card with K7 in hand. The difference should be apparant.

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What do you mean by this? Seems like the opposite is true.

Flop KK7, an opponent with a K can have as many as 9 outs to beat K7.

Flop K77, an opponent can have 2 outs with a a pocket pair greater than 7, 3 if they have A7 and we don't have an A, or 5 if they have pocket pair + A7, or they can have KK and have us crushed.

Ribbo 09-03-2007 08:23 PM

Re: how did i play?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
KK7 you can give a free card with K7 in hand. K77 you cannot give a free card with K7 in hand. The difference should be apparant.

[/ QUOTE ]

What do you mean by this? Seems like the opposite is true.

Flop KK7, an opponent with a K can have as many as 9 outs to beat K7.

Flop K77, an opponent can have 2 outs with a a pocket pair greater than 7, 3 if they have A7 and we don't have an A, or 5 if they have pocket pair + A7, or they can have KK and have us crushed.

[/ QUOTE ]

On a flop like K77, pocket pairs 88 through QQ can beat you on the turn. They cannot on a KK7 flop, indeed you want them to catch up.

piiop 09-03-2007 08:27 PM

Re: how did i play?
 
Right, but an opponent who turns an underfull will give a lot less action than someone who flops trips regardless of kicker.

Ribbo 09-03-2007 09:17 PM

Re: how did i play?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Right, but an opponent who turns an underfull will give a lot less action than someone who flops trips regardless of kicker.

[/ QUOTE ]

And an opponent with an overfull on the turn will give you a lot MORE action...

RoundTower 09-03-2007 11:52 PM

Re: how did i play?
 
I agree with Piiop, I am much more inclined to give a free card with K7 on K77 (especially AK7). I suppose it depends a bit on whether there has already been a flop bet or not making 7xxx more likely.


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