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asg 11-14-2007 08:55 PM

5NL HUSNG paired board
 
Full Tilt Poker, $5 + $0.25 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 20/40 Blinds, 2 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): 1,465
BB: 1,535

Pre-Flop: (60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
Hero calls 20, BB checks

Flop: (80) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 80</font>, BB calls 80

Turn: (240) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 240</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to 1,415 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

Results: 720 Pot
BB mucked and WON 720 (+360 NET)

Unknown Soldier 11-14-2007 08:57 PM

Re: 5NL HUSNG paired board
 
i'd raise it pf

check this flop, as played turn bet is too thin i think, good fold to the shove

asg 11-14-2007 09:15 PM

Re: 5NL HUSNG paired board
 
what does thin mean? i mean i bet the pot? should i have bet more than the pot?

Unknown Soldier 11-14-2007 09:16 PM

Re: 5NL HUSNG paired board
 
sorry, i meant you shouldn't have bet all together, certainly not pot anyway.

Somekid 11-14-2007 09:18 PM

Re: 5NL HUSNG paired board
 
Raise preflop.

I'm surprised that you're suggesting checking the flop, Unknown Soldier. It seems to me our hand is pretty vulnerable and that we need to bet here. I'd be interested in hearing why you'd want to check that flop.

TNixon 11-14-2007 09:22 PM

Re: 5NL HUSNG paired board
 
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I'd be interested in hearing why you'd want to check that flop.

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Telling somebody to check that flop in position seems like pretty bad advice on the surface, so I'd be interested in hearing the rationale as well.

Unknown Soldier 11-14-2007 09:26 PM

Re: 5NL HUSNG paired board
 
think of the hands that continues - draws/Ts/9s that range has v. good equity against us since our kicker isn't great(bet if he'll call with like A high though). If you wait until the turen our equity vs that range improves. Not only that, but it's a nice way to see a cheap showdown. if we bet the flop and get called i don't think we can profitably bet the turn, that allows our opponent to take it away from us on the river (assuming we don't know his bluffing frequencies and can't profitably call). however by checking the flop, then betting the turn, the action often goes check-bet-call(or fold) then our opponent checks to us on the river. We have got to showdown with our marginal hand and have got money in with better equity against his range.



if the board was T94 then i'd bet because our hand has more value on the flop. Hopefully that makes some sort of sense.

Unknown Soldier 11-14-2007 09:29 PM

Re: 5NL HUSNG paired board
 
Tnixon, interesting you mentioned position because we should be more inclined to bet oop then ip

TNixon 11-14-2007 09:30 PM

Re: 5NL HUSNG paired board
 
Hmm. I guess that makes sense.

Having a pair on a paired board just doesn't seem all that marginal to me heads up though. Then again, I get called a lot by ace-high here as well.

Do you play on stars by chance?

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I bet this flop when I've hit a piece, because I also bet it a huge percentage of the time when I haven't.

TNixon 11-14-2007 09:32 PM

Re: 5NL HUSNG paired board
 
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Tnixon, interesting you mentioned position because we should be more inclined to bet oop then ip

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Not sure I understand that, either, since pretty much everything I've seen here would indicate that being oop is where you really don't want to be building a pot.

In position, I'm pretty sure I have the best hand, and I don't want overcards or better draws to get a free card.


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