Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD
 

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fold>>>>>>shove>>>>>>>call

Edit: Folding is still your best option though.

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This is a clear fold PF. Calling is so much worse than shoving because of the shallow stack, there's just no room to play postflop. Shoving is still bad though, 16BBs is just a bit too deep to start shoving such hands over 1 limper

Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD
 

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fold>>>>>>shove>>>>>>>call

Edit: Folding is still your best option though.

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This is a clear fold PF. Calling is so much worse than shoving because of the shallow stack, there's just no room to play postflop. Shoving is still bad though, 16BBs is just a bit too deep to start shoving such hands over 1 limper

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First of all pfap, I spend a lot of lurk time in the home poker forum... nice to see you here.

Second, this thread has pretty much nailed it as far as limping being bad because of your stack size. Pushing here isn't terrible but you said you've been pushing a lot and so may get looked up light.

As for the flop, I think you played it perfectly. This is a great spot for an all-in checkraise. I mean, you played JT -- if you're not gonna go to the felt on a Q9x flop, why are you playing JT in the first place?

Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD
 

The call preflop is +ev if you feel confident the blinds are unlikely to raise frequently. You have a decent hand (for an unraised pot) on the button in a situation where players are likely to play much tighter. Even in a four-way pot there are obviously quite a few flops where you can just take it down after it's checked to you if you show strength. Ideally you'd have a draw in that spot, but you wouldn't need one, and of course you will flop the best hand with jack-ten a reasonable percentage of the time against the ranges of the three villains. Of course, it would also be nice if you had clear evidence that the bubble play of the other players in the hand had been tighter than their usual play.

It's non-standard but hey, it's profitable for me in the 4/180s [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD
 

I dunno about a shove here -- the blinds could easily have checked a nine or a queen if they felt like you were very likely to take a stab at the pot given your image. Someone could obviously also have the flush draw with the queen and be willing to go with it, and you're down two outs if that's the case. Is the quality of play bad enough that someone might even call all-in with the nut flush draw here? Of course the CO has a good chance of looking you up with almost anything if he puts you on a draw. That said, you're adding 40% to your stack if you take it down, you're probably got 30% equity if you're called and no one's shown any strength. So it's close.

Maybe a smaller raise (but one which you were still intending to call all-in with) might have been a more believable way to represent a big hand?

Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD
 

Fold pre, fold flop. Stacking off on a paired two flush board with a OESD can't be a good idea.