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NHFunkii 08-29-2007 07:35 AM

Betfolding in barcelona
 
Early on 10k effective, 50/100 I open AK to 300 from utg+1 I think, one caller from MP, so pot is 750. Flop comes A72r and I´m not as good at math as I like to think so I only bet 400, he calls. Turn is a 4 putting 2 clubs on the board, I bet 800 (again, thought pot was smaller), he calls. River is an offsuit ace, I bet 1600 (sigh), he makes it 6k, I fold.

no reads other than appearance... he´s a probably 20 something european but I cant tell from where, wearing this really weird lavendar/purple shirt with like an electric koolaid death patch on it and a few other weird designs.

Ansky 08-29-2007 07:39 AM

Re: Betfolding in barcelona
 
thats a pretty nasty spot

betgo 08-29-2007 07:49 AM

Re: Betfolding in barcelona
 
I call the river. Villain could have a lower ace or be making a play.

Flop bet size seems OK. Turn half pot also OK. Don't mind checking the turn or betting a little more.

registrar 08-29-2007 07:56 AM

Re: Betfolding in barcelona
 
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or be making a play.



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Surely that's very unlikely indeed. We bet three streets on a ragged ace high flop. WE HAVE AN ACE.

Confused1 08-29-2007 08:06 AM

Re: Betfolding in barcelona
 
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thats a pretty nasty spot


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betgo 08-29-2007 08:08 AM

Re: Betfolding in barcelona
 
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or be making a play.



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Surely that's very unlikely indeed. We bet three streets on a ragged ace high flop. WE HAVE AN ACE.

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OP was the preflop raiser and half pot cbet a raggedy ace high flop. OP bet half pot on all streets. OP could certainly bluff the paired board on the river.

Also, villain could think OP has an ace with a lower kicker and would fold it.

registrar 08-29-2007 08:15 AM

Re: Betfolding in barcelona
 
Christ knows what the field is like at EPT events but if we like a weak ace enough to raise from ep and then bet three streets into a cold caller, we like it enough to call with it. He's not expecting us to fold trips. There's no value in raising if we don't have an ace.

This is not a play on his part ever. He's got a boat or he has an ace. Granted, he could easily be stupid enough to raise with zomg trip aces (and any kicker). That's why this spot is messy.

MLG 08-29-2007 09:16 AM

Re: Betfolding in barcelona
 
seems fine.

Winenose 08-29-2007 09:41 AM

Re: Betfolding in barcelona
 
Making it 6k doesn't make sense though, does it? He either wants you to call or he doesn't. Betting 6k into 4750 pot on river does not scream "i want you to call". Or he wants you to call and bets an amount that screams "i bluff, please don't call me" ?

I probably should not post in HSMTT forum.

registrar 08-29-2007 09:48 AM

Re: Betfolding in barcelona
 
We're not calling any raise with less than trip aces and we're not folding trip aces so if he can beat trip aces why not bet big?


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