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Borsig 11-26-2007 09:36 PM

Is raising too thin ?
 
Villain is a 47/19/1.27 donk with a river AF of 5. My image is probably pretty poor because I have been isolating him a lot recently and I've been taiking the pots down on the flop for the most part.

No IQ poker 2.00/4.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button Hero ($400.00)
SB hokie2 ($200.40)
BB ElPurco ($400.00)
UTG TRIBNIB1 ($299.00)
UTG+1 vanyatka ($576.40)
CO Villain ($389.25)

Dealt to Bors1g [10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]

Preflop: , 2 folds, Villain raises to 16.00, Hero calls 16.00, 2 folds.

Flop (38.00) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villain bets 16.00, Hero raises to 44.00, Villain calls 28.00.

Turn (126.00) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Villain checks, Hero checks.

River (126.00) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain bets 56.00, Hero raises? If so, how much and what if he shoves?

jamiezig 11-26-2007 10:19 PM

Re: Is raising too thin ?
 
too thin, me thinks. unless you think a 4 calls you, then go for it.

RiverHebrew2 11-27-2007 12:12 AM

Re: Is raising too thin ?
 
I like a raise to $148 or so. If he shoves, jus fold. It looks like this is a blocking bet or maybe he wants you to bluff, and he has like A9, TT, or JJ. I'd raise/fold this riv a LOT.

blankoblanco 11-27-2007 12:29 AM

Re: Is raising too thin ?
 
against this donk i wouldn't.

however against a good, hand-reading, thinking player i think a river raise can be pretty sexy here. it's so hard for you to have a good hand here. the missed draws overwhelm the rare 33, 44, or random Q that got there (which your opponent can't expect you to raise anyway). so a good hand-reader may do a lot of "bluffcatching" here

Dan Terra 11-27-2007 12:54 AM

Re: Is raising too thin ?
 
not thin at all, RAISE!!!!

BobboFitos 11-27-2007 02:17 AM

Re: Is raising too thin ?
 
this whole hand is confusing

DJ Sensei 11-27-2007 03:15 AM

Re: Is raising too thin ?
 
yea i think you can get away with a small raise (fold to a 3bet obv) but calling is definitely a reasonable option. if villain has reason to think you bluff too much, a raise looks better. if he respects you/thinks you're a nit, call is better.

g-p 11-27-2007 03:34 AM

Re: Is raising too thin ?
 
yea imagine if u had missed spades and raised and everyone would tell you it sucked because any pair calls


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