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Le Sug 09-10-2006 05:15 PM

Stars 4.40 KK hand
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t7195)
Button (t5415)
SB (t4050)
Hero (t2005)
UTG (t1850)
UTG+1 (t1975)
MP1 (t7065)
MP2 (t2600)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t100, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, UTG calls t400, CO calls t400, SB folds.

Flop: (t1600) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1505 (All-In)</font>,

Was this good poker? The flop push was really bad? I am guessing that no worse hands were calling, but I was also trying to represent strong ace to push people out in case someone called with ace rag, is this a valid tactic?

ghostwriter 09-10-2006 05:33 PM

Re: Stars 4.40 KK hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t7195)
Button (t5415)
SB (t4050)
Hero (t2005)
UTG (t1850)
UTG+1 (t1975)
MP1 (t7065)
MP2 (t2600)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t100, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, UTG calls t400, CO calls t400, SB folds.

Flop: (t1600) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1505 (All-In)</font>,

Was this good poker? The flop push was really bad? I am guessing that no worse hands were calling, but I was also trying to represent strong ace to push people out in case someone called with ace rag, is this a valid tactic?

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No one is folding an ace here.

azmodanix 09-10-2006 05:46 PM

Re: Stars 4.40 KK hand
 
If you had a strong ace why would you be going all in? You wouldn't be trying to scare them out.

Le Sug 09-10-2006 05:53 PM

Re: Stars 4.40 KK hand
 
No ace is folding - is that because of the size of the initial raise?

A stronge ace is still only top pair - still vulnerable.

What would the correct play be? I did consider checking but I think I got attached to the hand. Checking KK with just an A on the board seems so weak?

FortunaMaximus 09-10-2006 05:59 PM

Re: Stars 4.40 KK hand
 
Well, you got two callers to your initial raise. It's always reasonable to count most Aces in their ranges.

You push that flop, they're not folding many Aces, probably not some spade draws either.

Why do you think folding KK is weak? You're drawing to two outs at best if either have an Ace.

BigSlick75093 09-10-2006 07:59 PM

Re: Stars 4.40 KK hand
 
What do you think those donkeys called your preflop raise with? Someone had to have an Ace and isn't going to fold.

mornelth 09-10-2006 09:27 PM

Re: Stars 4.40 KK hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
No ace is folding - is that because of the size of the initial raise?

A stronge ace is still only top pair - still vulnerable.

What would the correct play be? I did consider checking but I think I got attached to the hand. Checking KK with just an A on the board seems so weak?

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Check-fold.

It may seem weak, but it's still a heck of a lot better than losing the tourney right here and now.

Try and lose that macho "Milwakees Best" attitude - you'll do much better in poker. And in other things, too.


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