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ryanghall 08-04-2007 05:05 PM

($1050) EPT qualifier call possible resteal from SB w/ AT?
 
I have played quite tight throughout most of the 100 or so hands I've played with this guy. He's been around 15/10. I've been a bit tighter probably. I had folded the SB to him a few times. However, last orbit I open shoved 62o from the SB for 10x BB and doubled up when he called w/ A5o. He used his time bank to call that one. On this hand, he thought a bit before he shoved, but not quite until the time warning. He didn't instantly shove or anything though. That made me think he had a stronger hand if anything. Notice BB is pretty short so he's not a threat to SB.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t11693)
UTG+1 (t23240)
MP1 (t9125)
MP2 (t11497)
MP3 (t19245)
CO (t22277)
Hero (t7160)
SB (t11037)
BB (t3175)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1000</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t11012 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, Hero ?

djk123 08-04-2007 05:21 PM

Re: ($1050) EPT qualifier call possible resteal from SB w/ AT?
 
gotta call here. 41.1883% equity is breakeven here, and against a basically worst case scenario of 22+,a9+,kq we have 41.6%.

stealthmunk 08-04-2007 07:33 PM

Re: ($1050) EPT qualifier call possible resteal from SB w/ AT?
 
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gotta call here. 41.1883% equity is breakeven here, and against a basically worst case scenario of 22+,a9+,kq we have 41.6%.

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you are so wrong and mind boggling bad in assuming that range.


i'll throw in that a call here is opp dependent. vs some players it would be a crime to fold, vs others you are basically burning $. in a sattelite vs a random after a pause i fold though and give htem credit for at least AJ+77+

ItalianFX 08-04-2007 07:44 PM

Re: ($1050) EPT qualifier call possible resteal from SB w/ AT?
 
I don't think the question is if he has a better hand than you, but if he makes this play enough times with worse hands.

I'm not so sure, and I'm not even close to a HS player, and this is about the 2nd time I've ever posted in this forum, but I figured I'd put in my thought here.

I fold.

djk123 08-04-2007 07:46 PM

Re: ($1050) EPT qualifier call possible resteal from SB w/ AT?
 
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gotta call here. 41.1883% equity is breakeven here, and against a basically worst case scenario of 22+,a9+,kq we have 41.6%.

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you are so wrong and mind boggling bad in assuming that range.


i'll throw in that a call here is opp dependent. vs some players it would be a crime to fold, vs others you are basically burning $. in a sattelite vs a random after a pause i fold though and give htem credit for at least AJ+77+

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Sheesh. I have a hard time believing that most people are not going to shove 44/A9/KQ here vs a button raiser with &lt;20bbs

stealthmunk 08-04-2007 07:58 PM

Re: ($1050) EPT qualifier call possible resteal from SB w/ AT?
 
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gotta call here. 41.1883% equity is breakeven here, and against a basically worst case scenario of 22+,a9+,kq we have 41.6%.

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you are so wrong and mind boggling bad in assuming that range.


i'll throw in that a call here is opp dependent. vs some players it would be a crime to fold, vs others you are basically burning $. in a sattelite vs a random after a pause i fold though and give htem credit for at least AJ+77+

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Sheesh. I have a hard time believing that most people aren't 2p2ers

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FYP.

Clayton 08-04-2007 08:20 PM

Re: ($1050) EPT qualifier call possible resteal from SB w/ AT?
 
the key is satellite, which i think djk is missing. ppl, even 2p2ers, are significantly less inclined to pull moves than normal in satellites, because everyone assigns tighter ranges to everyone. as such a call range should be tighter.

stealthmunk is right.

that said, if i see the SB doing anything out of the ordinary, i would be inclined to snapcall. against an unknown i think a call is suidice, as it is usually a better ace or a medium to biggish pair.

betgo 08-04-2007 10:10 PM

Re: ($1050) EPT qualifier call possible resteal from SB w/ AT?
 
How many players remaining for how many seats? It is impossible to answer without knowing that.

08-05-2007 05:30 AM

Re: ($1050) EPT qualifier call possible resteal from SB w/ AT?
 
Didn't read other responses yet, but basically if I double through someone by shoving 62o, I'm gonna treat my ATo like they were AA next time I raise him.

Bond18 08-05-2007 08:39 AM

Re: ($1050) EPT qualifier call possible resteal from SB w/ AT?
 
Stealth/Clayton are right here about the much tighter ranges/less moves in satellites. It's a fold unless BB is habitual move maker.


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