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mflip 09-26-2007 10:05 PM

$11 20k guaranteed, raise river?
 
Villain is pretty awful. He checked all 3 streets after turning the nut flush a couple orbits before this. Got his chips when he completed 44 in the SB flopped a set and got it in on the flop after he bet/min3bet and got 4bet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t2455)
MP1 (t2065)
MP2 (t4050)
MP3 (t5090)
CO (t4545)
Hero (t2695)
SB (t3905)
BB (t6840)
UTG (t6805)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t150.

Flop: (t425) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t425) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, BB calls t300.

River: (t1025) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t300</font>, Hero ??

BrandiFan 09-26-2007 10:18 PM

Re: $11 20k guaranteed, raise river?
 
Call, if he's been slowplaying trips or AT he got no value. He may have a weaker ace where calling is losing value and it's occasionally a donk blocking bet with 88 or some other trash which you could raise a little and get paid off, but I'd just call if you have a read that he'd slowplay his big hands and you didn't try to disguise your hand.

BriPlay 09-27-2007 10:53 PM

Re: $11 20k guaranteed, raise river?
 
given he's BB and given his donkish tendencies would call your PF raise witha wide range I'd probably just call here since a nine is quite possible given how he played this.
Its possible this is just a bad bluff with busted draw but he wont call a raise with those hands
Brian

levAA 09-28-2007 04:01 AM

Re: $11 20k guaranteed, raise river?
 
I probably c-bet this flop with AK.

River is a call.

markbris 09-28-2007 04:07 AM

Re: $11 20k guaranteed, raise river?
 
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I probably c-bet this flop with AK.

River is a call.

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black666 09-28-2007 09:54 AM

Re: $11 20k guaranteed, raise river?
 
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I probably c-bet this flop with AK.

River is a call.

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Sherman 09-28-2007 10:58 AM

Re: $11 20k guaranteed, raise river?
 
I make it 150 PF.

Not c-betting here is okay sometimes just to mix it up. Especially if you think he is capable of check/raising with air. You probably don't (or at least shouldn't) always c-bet here with AA either.

RonFezBuddy 09-28-2007 11:21 AM

Re: $11 20k guaranteed, raise river?
 
I'd be careful here. While it is likely that he has Ax, it's also possible that he was slowplaying a 9, or even A10 from the blinds (based on his action you observed earlier).

I don't like this board for raising because of the stage of the tourney you are in and the fact that his range is pretty wide from the blinds and you have no clue where you are.

I'd call.

BlueEcho 09-28-2007 11:57 AM

Re: $11 20k guaranteed, raise river?
 
I make it 150 pf.

Checking the flop is fine but I sometimes c/bet. I like the turn bet and just call the river. If you are ahead I think you got the most out of it. If you are behind I think you lost the least you could.


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