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PoliticalRefugee 06-10-2007 08:49 PM

NL25 KK - Is this a call?
 
Is this a call here? I think it is as he could easily have JJ QQ instead of an A and he's hoping I do something stupid with 55-TT.

Thoughts on the rest of the hand appreciated as well.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($48.35)
CO ($13.20)
Hero ($26.55)
SB ($23.85)
BB ($48.95)
UTG ($25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $1.25.

Flop: ($3.35) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($3.35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $3.35</font>, Hero calls $3.35.

River: ($10.05) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $8.35 (All-In)</font>, Hero ????

Pokey 06-10-2007 08:51 PM

Re: NL25 KK - Is this a call?
 
I call this every time with no hesitation. Zeebo's law says he'll do this with any full house, and there's no way you can get away from the nut full house in this situation. If he's got quads, congratulate him and move on, because you were destined to get stacked.

mugatu668 06-10-2007 08:51 PM

Re: NL25 KK - Is this a call?
 
I would throw up and then toss a coin. Pokey is probably right though.

PoliticalRefugee 06-10-2007 08:53 PM

Re: NL25 KK - Is this a call?
 
Cool, cos I thought the Ace helped me on the river as it means it's less likely he has one in his hole cards.

Just going over it limp call preflop doesnt seem the play of a large pocket pair, more Ax so that confused me.

Ikaika 06-10-2007 08:54 PM

Re: NL25 KK - Is this a call?
 
Why would you throw up? I snapcall this and expect to win. He does this with ANY pair that beats the board.

jmgambler 06-10-2007 08:54 PM

Re: NL25 KK - Is this a call?
 
Tip for you: On a similar hand bet $1 on the flop ..... just try it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Ok, After calling the turn and getting THAT river, he has one out (save for 44) I call, I cant lay this down , especially when I have my Op 2-1 in chips

sence25 06-10-2007 08:54 PM

Re: NL25 KK - Is this a call?
 
isn't this one of the easiest calls ever?

Bantam222 06-10-2007 08:58 PM

Re: NL25 KK - Is this a call?
 
You have a better idea of where you stand if you bet the flop, but as played this is an easy call.

Gigglegirl 06-10-2007 09:09 PM

Re: NL25 KK - Is this a call?
 
Hmmm, I dunno. Sure it's unlikely he has an ace but an ace is more likely than any other individual card.
If he has an ace, he played the hand very straightforwardly.
As others have said, betting the flop makes this hand easier and I bet that flop 100% of the time. If he calls flop and then does this I'm folding.
Zeebo theorem as I understand it states that no one will FOLD a boat. So he might call our AI playing just the board (it happens!) or 55+ but here, Villain is pushing it from turn onwards.
Depending on how I feel towards Villain, I fold most of the time here and scold myself for not betting flop.

Ikaika 06-10-2007 09:24 PM

Re: NL25 KK - Is this a call?
 
Folding here is pretty terrible.


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