Just moved to LA, Best Casinos?
 

Well I just moved to LA not too long ago and I want to play some small stakes NL. Probably 1-2 or 2-5. What Casinos have the best rake, games, rooms? Are any low stakes even beatable? Every casino Ive been to, the rakes been ridiculous.

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all the same 4-5$ rake per hand over like 10 at the bike, commerce, hg etc.

yes they are beatable

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also what about Pechanga?

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Are any low stakes even beatable? Every casino Ive been to, the rakes been ridiculous.

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I hate this question without any defintion of what "beatable" is as everyone plays differently and has a different view of how to beat a game.

If you're good enough, you can beat any game out there. For how much? Probably nothing worthwile if you're looking to play for a living. If you're playing for recreation, then $1 per hour profit is being a beatable game.

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no expierence, but out towards palm springs, cabazon exactly, Morongo is a fish pool. tons of rich tourist. its more a less a vacation spot for old people, golfers, and those who got the ghey.

Stick the clubs in LA if they are close. You can easily come up cash in the 200NL no prob and not have to worry about rake.

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no expierence, but out towards palm springs, cabazon exactly, Morongo is a fish pool. tons of rich tourist. its more a less a vacation spot for old people, golfers, and those who got the ghey.

Stick the clubs in LA if they are close. You can easily come up cash in the 200NL no prob and not have to worry about rake.

[/ QUOTE ] Ive played at The Morongo, I didnt like it cause the 1-3 NL game is $100 max buy in which isnt very fun. It was a fish pool though, unfortunately I got coolered but definitely easy games.

Stick the clubs in LA if they are close. - whats this? Also my old friend who moved to texas a month ago told me about a place right by me, sounded sort of like a underground type deal, so Ill have to check that out.

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200NL at Hollywood Park is super-soft, expect some suck outs from the bad play, but it is a very profitable game.

200Nl at Commerce varies, sometimes soft, sometimes very tough. Really hit or miss.

200 NL at the Bike same as Commerce.

IMO

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yeah, what are these clubs i hear about?

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yeah, what are these clubs i hear about?

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Nothing to see here...move along.

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no expierence, but out towards palm springs, cabazon exactly, Morongo is a fish pool. tons of rich tourist. its more a less a vacation spot for old people, golfers, and those who got the ghey.

Stick the clubs in LA if they are close. You can easily come up cash in the 200NL no prob and not have to worry about rake.

[/ QUOTE ] Ive played at The Morongo, I didnt like it cause the 1-3 NL game is $100 max buy in which isnt very fun. It was a fish pool though, unfortunately I got coolered but definitely easy games.

Stick the clubs in LA if they are close. - whats this? Also my old friend who moved to texas a month ago told me about a place right by me, sounded sort of like a underground type deal, so Ill have to check that out.

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If you dont like the structure at Morongo, you will hate the structure in LA.

Bike,Commerce, HP 100NL 2/3 blinds. 200NL 3/5 blinds
Hustler 50-100NL 1/2 blinds, 100-300NL 2/5 blinds
HG 20nL 1/1, 40NL 1/2, 100 NL ???, 200NL ???

Good luck

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I have found that the Indian casinos tend to have a bunch of nitty rules like requiring all in players to table their hands - in a cash game, and they do everything possible to try and void a BBJ. If you even turn your cards up after everyone is all in you will disqualify a BBJ. Now, I honestly haven't seen this happen. I was told this by dealers at 3 different rooms.

IMO, the only reason to go to an Indian room unless you live nearby is if you want to play blackjack or slots.

For 1/2 - 3/5 try The Bike, Commerce, or HP.

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I don't understand all the nitiness about structure of LA's NL games.

The biggest profit will come from the mistakes of your opponents, not your skill. Los Angeles players are donkeys of first order. They suck really bad at poker.

Structure ought not be the primary concern if the players are horrible enough IMO. I'd rather play at a table full of drooling knuckle draggers than at a table full of weak-tights.

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yeah, what are these clubs i hear about?

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i call all card houses clubs, the bike card club, commerece club...

the version club you are reffering to doesnt exist =P

player club in ventura has a highrollers game, but nothing you cant find in LA

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I played the 3/5 NL at Morongo about a year ago and will say that it was the JUCIEST game I've ever played in. Ever.

Almost worth the drive.

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I don't understand all the nitiness about structure of LA's NL games.

The biggest profit will come from the mistakes of your opponents, not your skill. Los Angeles players are donkeys of first order. They suck really bad at poker.

Structure ought not be the primary concern if the players are horrible enough IMO. I'd rather play at a table full of drooling knuckle draggers than at a table full of weak-tights.

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Gotta agree here. Rick Niebolo(sp?) has also made a few posts explaining why these structures are more beneficial to the games as a whole as well.

I think most would agree that, despite the structures, the games are much better than the weak-tight and loose-passive games found in most Vegas casinos, which have a "better" structure. With all the rebuying that goes on in L.A. though, there are usually quite a few large stacks at the table after a while, and usually the people with those stacks have no idea how to play deep.

Also, if you do head to Indian Casinos, you might wanna check out San Manuel too. Not quite as far a drive as Morongo.

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Low stakes may be very difficult to beat relative to Vegas because of the $4-$6 drop every hand regardless of pot size. All of the 2/5 and 3/5 blind NL games are good. Commerce & Bike are the two top notch casinos to play at and that attract money. Hawaiian Gardens and Hustler occasionally have good games. I wouldn't both with Hollywood Park, Crystral Park, Etc. The indian casino games tend to be rock gardens compared to LA with the exception of Morongo because it is 18+. San Diego indian casinos tend to have good games.

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Low stakes may be very difficult to beat relative to Vegas because of the $4-$6 drop every hand regardless of pot size. All of the 2/5 and 3/5 blind NL games are good. Commerce & Bike are the two top notch casinos to play at and that attract money. Hawaiian Gardens and Hustler occasionally have good games. I wouldn't both with Hollywood Park, Crystral Park, Etc. The indian casino games tend to be rock gardens compared to LA with the exception of Morongo because it is 18+. San Diego indian casinos tend to have good games.

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$2/5 blind NL games that are on the loose side play as big as a $15-30 LHE game. I don't hear anyone claiming $15-30 with a $5 drop is unbeatable due to rake.