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sippin_criss 11-30-2007 05:04 PM

$16: Flop spew feat. river FPS
 
Flop was pretty meh, I'd have folded to any more. As for the river I just couldn't help myself. What you say?


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UTG (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t60</font>, Hero calls t60, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t60, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t210) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets t120</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>

Turn: (t450) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (t450) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets t40</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t320</font>

KCW12 11-30-2007 05:10 PM

Re: $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS
 
As played, raising the river seems like an interesting idea given the board and villain's weak bet, but it's pretty marginal. I'm usually folding the flop to avoid situations like this early on.

vers 11-30-2007 05:34 PM

Re: $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS
 
If you think he can fold, then it's ok. Flop peel is pretty gross I think.

mattiesmat 11-30-2007 05:39 PM

Re: $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS
 
I raise preflop to not have a zillion limpers, be able to cbet against 1 opponent with respect and win a bigger pot if we hit.
On the flop pot is 210+120=330. We have to win 120/(330+120) * 100= 26.66%. We have (very likely) 4 Queens, 3 Aces, 3 Kings as outs = 10 outs = 20%. Add some implied odds and being ahead some of the time I think calling is ok.
I just call river, but I don't think it's bad.

_Towelie_ 11-30-2007 06:32 PM

Re: $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS
 
I've started raising over donk bets HU fairly often and it works more often than not. I like the raise.

JacJacAtk 11-30-2007 07:02 PM

Re: $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS
 
[ QUOTE ]
I raise preflop to not have a zillion limpers, be able to cbet against 1 opponent with respect and win a bigger pot if we hit.
On the flop pot is 210+120=330. We have to win 120/(330+120) * 100= 26.66%. We have (very likely) 4 Queens, 3 Aces, 3 Kings as outs = 10 outs = 20%. Add some implied odds and being ahead some of the time I think calling is ok.
I just call river, but I don't think it's bad.

[/ QUOTE ]

You really think the K and Q of hearts are outs on the flop? The A, maybe, but the K and Q are quite dirty.

And calling the river seems like a really bad idea. What are you ever ahead of?

mattiesmat 11-30-2007 08:55 PM

Re: $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS
 
He only has to be bluffing 1 times in 11 or so.
But folding river is okay/better maybe.


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