10-20 I\'m terrible V Stinger
 

We have both played very solidly over the last 30 minutes or so - he may or may not know who I am but he probably does because of cardrunners. My preflop play is bad, I know... I'm more interested in the flop.

Don't have HH because I was so tilted I insta-quit the game earlier.

Folded to Stinger (covers) on the btn who raises to 80 and I call in the SB (2700) with 1010. BB folds so heads up to a flop of 2 5 7, two clubs.

AS PLAYED who likes a lead? Check call? Check raise?

I elected to go for the C/R. Stinger bets 120, I make it 380 and relatively quickly he bumps it to 1050 or something...

Before I give my thoughts or my action, what do you guys think? Please, I understand preflop was bad I was more experimenting than anything else...

Re: 10-20 I\'m terrible V Stinger
 

Why is preflop bad?

Re: 10-20 I\'m terrible V Stinger
 

Preflop is standard for me. I don't mind the c/r that much if you are 100bbs (obv intending to get it in), as played I guess you gotta vomit and fold

Re: 10-20 I\'m terrible V Stinger
 

Why does it even have to be vomit and fold how about just fold

Re: 10-20 I\'m terrible V Stinger
 

i would lead the flop. as played u should generally fold.

Re: 10-20 I\'m terrible V Stinger
 

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i would lead the flop. as played u should generally fold.

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lead intending to fold to raise? just call if he raises? seems awkard, so just wondering if u wouldn't mind elaborating

Re: 10-20 I\'m terrible V Stinger
 

c/c flop is best with 135 bb eff i think, with 100bb you might wanna c/r and get it in.
Preflop is fine too

Re: 10-20 I\'m terrible V Stinger
 

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i would lead the flop. as played u should generally fold.

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I mean it seems clear to me that given this board texture Revlis almost never has a big hand, which would lead me to believe that Stinger's bluffing/semi-bluffing frequency should be pretty high here. Thus, I would stack off if I played the hand in this manner.

Re: 10-20 I\'m terrible V Stinger
 

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i would lead the flop. as played u should generally fold.

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if you lead this flop what are you doing if raised on this flop? reraising? or calling/evaluating? it seems like this line gets you into the same problems that c/ring does.

Re: 10-20 I\'m terrible V Stinger
 

if cc ootbs with TT isnt standard for you, youre undervaluing your hand here.

Also, if you are going to c/r here, has he seen you do it before? details on that...

I think leading seems really fishy, and from watching stingers vids, I really think hes gonna [censored] with you.

Whats wrong with just check calling the flop? I guess I could see it being somewhat bad for us because there are a lot of cards in his range that could fall and force us to fold...