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fees 10-29-2007 02:38 AM

So I flatted AK and got there
 
But I has no idea wtf to do, [censored] hearts=/

UTG is a tigher TAG, something like 17/12, no history. Somewhat on the passive side, as far as tags go. Other guy is like 37/11, donk, not particularly aggressive.

Do I raise or call, and with the intention of doing what on the turn?

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $441
BB: $299.80
UTG: $457
CO: $400
Hero (BTN): $525.45

Pre-Flop: Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $14, SB folds, BB calls $10

Flop: ($44) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $32</font>, <font color="red">Hero </font>

Also I called OTB just to mix it up, we had no history, though if we've ever played before he might think I get out of line 3betting preflop. There was a player that liked to squeeze form time to time in the blinds which is mostly why i made the call.

raze 10-29-2007 03:09 AM

Re: So I flatted AK and got there
 
Gotta raise, you're ahead of Ace + heart.

Hoopster81 10-29-2007 03:10 AM

Re: So I flatted AK and got there
 
PF is fine

call?

fees 10-29-2007 04:01 AM

Re: So I flatted AK and got there
 
mmk so if I raise obv it goes in, if I call whats my non-heart turn action, whats my action if the other guy riaseS?

markuisis 10-29-2007 04:03 AM

Re: So I flatted AK and got there
 
call, fold to a raise from passive donk and re-evalutate turn against utg if donk folds.

Kwantum 10-29-2007 05:09 AM

Re: So I flatted AK and got there
 
Call. On heart turn if you're led into I think it's an easy fold given UTG's description, otherwise check behind. On a blank turn, if bet into I probably keep calling down, UTG can easily be betting worse, otherwise I make a hefty bet if checked to and evaluate from there.

It's unlikely he flopped a flush and I think you still can get some value from his other hands like AQ/AJ/KK/QQ/JJ with a heart in his hand.

Also, you're severely under-repped here. I like calling the flop, not putting in a raise. Control the pot, you maximize when he's semibluffing worse that he normally might check/fold on a less drawy board, and you minimize losses when he happened to flop a set, flush, or is freerolling with Ah Kh.

Cliff notes: call flop

Pog0 10-29-2007 08:03 AM

Re: So I flatted AK and got there
 
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mmk so if I raise obv it goes in, if I call whats my non-heart turn action, whats my action if the other guy riaseS?

[/ QUOTE ]

if non-heart turn, get all in. if heart turn, don't get all in.

CopTHIS 10-29-2007 08:13 AM

Re: So I flatted AK and got there
 
I def vote call too.

jfish 10-29-2007 08:16 AM

Re: So I flatted AK and got there
 
wow raising is so bad. call.

whorasaurus 10-29-2007 08:47 AM

Re: So I flatted AK and got there
 
call flop, bet/raise non-heart turn


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