I have no clue how to play this
 

BB is a 60/13/1.7/30 donk. UTG is BigRob 20/17 TAG who I play w/ a lot.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($204.10)
SB ($402.90)
BB ($104.85)
UTG ($197)
MP ($45.80)
Hero ($215.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $22</font>

Re: I have no clue how to play this
 

start by calling. proceed cautiously, maybe fold to a turn bet. problem here is that anything other than folding over-reps your hand by a good clip.

Re: I have no clue how to play this
 

every option i can think of seems like it sucks

fold - sucks because he's prob isolating the fish a lot
call - sucks because there's a pretty good chance BB will try to get it in, and playing the turn will still be difficult
3betting - i'd feel fine to play for stacks against BB, but felting w/ UTG here sucks imo. 3bet/fold seems really spewy.

eh, tough spot..not sure which of those is the best, but if he is isolating BB light enough, then i 3bet and expect him to fold sometimes?

Re: I have no clue how to play this
 

i agree with early but i think call is the best option:

when bb 3bets and utg shoves we have an easy fold, when bb 3bets and utg folds we have a pretty easy call/shove imho

same goes for turn action imho, position will give us a lot of information

club = fold
blank, bb bets utg folds = get it in
blank, bb bets utg calls or shoves = fold
blank, bb checks utg checks = bet
blank, bb checks utg bets = fold

Re: I have no clue how to play this
 

Obviously a very tough spot...Don't have pokerstove on this CPU and I can't tell you exactly how 2 pair is up against a big combo draw with the T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

I fold like a nit here and let the BB stack off. If BigRob wasn't UTG then I think a call can be justified, then fold to a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K, or T.

Re: I have no clue how to play this
 

meh he's not really that passive after all

Re: I have no clue how to play this
 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($204.10)
SB ($402.90)
BB ($104.85)
UTG ($197)
MP ($45.80)
Hero ($215.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $22</font>, Hero calls $22, BB calls $16.

Turn: ($91) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $33</font>

OK, I didn't want to raise or fold so I called [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. Now what? That's sort uv an odd bet by UTG. Looks like a blocker or the nuts. We're sure he doesn't have a set now, so could this be AK w/ a club? W/out a club?

Re: I have no clue how to play this
 

Why couldn't he still have a set?

Re: I have no clue how to play this
 

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Why couldn't he still have a set?

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cause he bet so weak on the turn its unlikely. he'd wanna get value/protect against [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]s.

fwiw, I think I'd just shove over his turn bet

Re: I have no clue how to play this
 

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Why couldn't he still have a set?

[/ QUOTE ]it's soooo unlikely that he has a set here