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Doylestown 01-30-2006 03:55 PM

BORGATA Main Event Hand
 
Very end of day 1. Hero is sitting on @60K which is above the 45K avg. Villain is sitting on @33K.

Blinds are 500/1000 w/100 ante
Hero is dealt AK suited in middle position and open raises to 4K. Villain on the button reraises to 14K. Blinds both fold.

What's your line?

hockey coach 01-30-2006 04:59 PM

Re: BORGATA Main Event Hand
 
Some read analysis would be helpful here - but I'll make some normalizing assumtions: 4K has been the standard table opener - nothing signaled by your opening raise; you haven't been particularly aggro/tight so your raise is being respected but doesn't necessarily imply monster given your position; likewise villian hasn't been overly aggro/tight. Given those assumptions:

14K reraise strikes me as discouraging action so prob not AA or KK - most likely range: AQ+, 99-QQ. While he has less than an avg stack his M is still fine - he shouldn't be feeling desparate.

He's only got 19K behind so he's committed unless the flop looks horrible to him and you lead out - so I think you can add his 19k into your implied odds if you hit your hand.

I call the 10k and plan to: check/fold a complete whiff, check/call his push if an A or K fall, lead out if I hit a a semi-bluff flop. If I don't put him on AA/KK then I'm getting the right price to hit my hand and the 10k call doesn't dramatically alter my chip position (the check/fold on a whiff sounds weak/tight but I don't think it is given the stack sizes). I don't like pushing here - you have no fold equity and are -EV to his range (at least where I put him). I won't argue too strongly that a fold is wrong - I think it's acceptable here.

How'd you make out in the tourney?

HC

bruce 01-30-2006 05:01 PM

Re: BORGATA Main Event Hand
 
I would probably have raised less to begin with, but I don't think it makes that big a difference.

If you call you're getting around 2 to 1 on your money. The
only problem with calling is you now have 25% of your stack
in the pot. You'll only flop something about a third of the time. Given that you only will lose around 7% of your stack
if you fold, I would probably let this one go. If I had
a good read that he was reraising with a less than optimal
hand I would push. I think calling is the worst possible
option.

Bruce

FGators 01-30-2006 05:01 PM

Re: BORGATA Main Event Hand
 
I would follow hockey coach's advice. He's got a ton of chips to just push. I would call and get aggressive if I hit my hand. Give him credit if you whiff.

stevepa 01-30-2006 05:05 PM

Re: BORGATA Main Event Hand
 
Push. Calling and check-folding if you miss is pretty bad.

Steve

bruce 01-30-2006 05:06 PM

Re: BORGATA Main Event Hand
 
He's risking 25% of his stack to see a flop which he'll whiff 1/3 of the time. If he were more shortstacked or more deepstacked I would push and at least get to see all five
cards.

Bruce

illegit 01-30-2006 05:07 PM

Re: BORGATA Main Event Hand
 
Calling with the intention of folding a whiffed flop is far and away the worst option we have.

This is push or fold. If I had seen villain re-raise preflop more than a few times, then I'm shoving. If he's been playing quite rocky I'm folding.

FGators 01-30-2006 05:07 PM

Re: BORGATA Main Event Hand
 
If this guy is a loose player that will raise with a lot of hands then I would be more likely to push and see him call with a hand that we have beat. If he's tight I would like to call and play poker.

If he has done this with AJ, A10, KQ, AQ and smaller pairs then push.

mlagoo 01-30-2006 05:09 PM

Re: BORGATA Main Event Hand
 
considering this is at the end of the day, and, given that, people are much more likely to fold JJ and TT in this situation, I would stick it allin. I really think he will need QQ+ to call given the situation. Do it!

stevepa 01-30-2006 05:10 PM

Re: BORGATA Main Event Hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
If this guy is a loose player that will raise with a lot of hands then I would be more likely to push and see him call with a hand that we have beat. If he's tight I would like to call and play poker.

If he has done this with AJ, A10, KQ, AQ and smaller pairs then push.

[/ QUOTE ]

There is no playing poker. That's the point. The pot will be 30k, he'll have 19k, he's pushing any flop and you're check-folding the best hand too often. Plus if he ever gets away from his hand (like 99-QQ) when the flop is Axx or AKx, then calling is even worse. Just shove the chips in now.

Steve


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