Hmmm he overbets turn, so I c/r AI with one pair
 

Standard? Haven't seen too much from this guy, except that he earlier posted in MP, so i assume he can't be great. he's also limped a coupla times

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($615)
UTG ($594)
MP ($362.05)
CO ($591)
Button ($2371.26)
SB ($747.31)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls $6, MP calls $6, 1 fold[/i]</font>, Button calls $6, 1 fold[/i]</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($27) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif [color=#0000FF](4 players)</font>
Hero bets $20</font>, UTG raises to $50</font>, MP folds, Button folds, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($127) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villian bets $175, Hero c/r AI


I would have folded to a normal sized bet on the turn, but the huge overbet gave me the impression he could only have a flush draw. I didn't think he would play a set or two pair this way, especially since the turn would have filled up his set, so he shouldn't have been worried about a flush hitting on the river...thoughts?

Re: Hmmm he overbets turn, so I c/r AI with one pair
 

Are you sereal?!

If i was this guy I'd be overbetting the turn with a very strong hand i wanted all my money in with, hoping to catch someoen with a so-so hand liek top pair get stuborn and click away there stack. Uness i had a good read on opponent (IE i've seen him od this at least twice before with draws or stone bluffs) than i would fold. Your call screams sheriif to me

Re: Hmmm he overbets turn, so I c/r AI with one pair
 

I think a club draw would check behind?

Re: Hmmm he overbets turn, so I c/r AI with one pair
 

Looks fine to me ....that being said i like the craise all in...calling here seems like the worst option so either fold or craise all in.

Re: Hmmm he overbets turn, so I c/r AI with one pair
 

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calling here seems like the worst option so either fold or craise all in.

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true. barring a read, i probably fold it.

Re: Hmmm he overbets turn, so I c/r AI with one pair
 

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Are you sereal?!

If i was this guy I'd be overbetting the turn with a very strong hand i wanted all my money in with, hoping to catch someoen with a so-so hand liek top pair get stuborn and click away there stack. Uness i had a good read on opponent (IE i've seen him od this at least twice before with draws or stone bluffs) than i would fold. Your call screams sheriif to me

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You think a bad player would bet 1.25x the pot on the turn with a set that just filled up? Maybe with two pair, but in my experience, bad players usually bet tiny amounts hoping for calls with big hands.

Re: Hmmm he overbets turn, so I c/r AI with one pair
 

It looks a lot like a T that he is trying to take down right away. C/r or fold, I like the c/r but obviously increases variance

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edit: i didnt see this was a limped pot. this is spew.

Re: Hmmm he overbets turn, so I c/r AI with one pair
 

T8 is definite possibility for him. When you call his c/r, he figures you for JT/AT/KT/QT kind of hand. He knows you know the 4 didnt hit him but he's still good with his top two and wants to pump pot since you like your second best hand, and his isnt a lock. Agreed with OP that he doesnt play 88 like this. He just figures you have 6 outs, and wants to get money in now.

Re: Hmmm he overbets turn, so I c/r AI with one pair
 

His flop was just a raise (villian had position on hero) not a c/r but I agree he puts hero on just the hand he's got and top 2 is big concern here.