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Beat: Got pulled over for speeding.
Variance: WTF I wasn't speeding!

So last week on my way out of town for Thanksgiving I'm driving down the interstate with my cruise control set at 70. The speed limit is 65. I come over a hill, there's a cop, he pulls out behind me and pulls me over. At this point I'm thinking, "Huh, wasn't speeding, wonder what the problem is."

Anyway, cop tells me I was doing over 80. EXCUSE ME?!?!?!? I say, "That's impossible my cruise control was set at 70." He says he had me going over 80 so he'd have to write me a ticket. He comes back a few minutes later with the ticket and that superior cop attitude, "Ok sir, I cut you a break and only wrote the ticket for 75. To pay it... blah blah blah." He hands me the ticket.

"I've got a question. If I want to fight this what are my options? Because I find it pretty asinine that you come back to my car with a ticket written for faster than I was possibly going and you act like you're doing ME a favor."

"I'm not going to argue with you on the side of the highway." He walks back to his car, gets in, and drives away.

MOTHER [censored]!

So I'm pretty much just screwed right? I've only ever had one ticket (like 6 years ago), which I didn't dispute because I deserved that one. But if I try to fight this, it comes down to my word vs. the cop right? Which means no way I get out of it.

Such [censored] how cops can get away with [censored] like this.

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WTF I wasn't speeding!

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So last week on my way out of town for Thanksgiving I'm driving down the interstate with my cruise control set at 70. The speed limit is 65.

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WTF I wasn't speeding!

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So last week on my way out of town for Thanksgiving I'm driving down the interstate with my cruise control set at 70. The speed limit is 65.

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Well, obviously, but you know what I mean. No one gets pulled over for going 5 over on an interstate.

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I guess you have 3 options.

1) Prove your speed control was set at 70. Then if you actually were clocked at 80 sue the maker of your car for a faulty speedometer. Good luck with that one.
2) Prove the officers radar gun was not calibrated correctly. Good luck.
3) Pay the ticket and take it up the ass.

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go to court? ask the cop relevant questions. when was his radar calibrated if he used radar, when was his speedometer calibrated if he paced you. If you do this a judge will see youre serious and if the cop has any missing evidence you have a fine chance of winning imo.

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3) Pay the ticket and take it up the ass.

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Yeah... fun times. The ticket is only $100, but it's just the principle of the thing that infuriated me.

FWIW, the find for 5 over (what I was actually doing) is $65. So Basically I'm getting screwed for $35 I guess.

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Even with cruise control on when you go down an incline you speed up especially if you have an SUV or Truck.........................

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I am not 100% sure but if you do go to court I believe radar picks up the heaviest vehicle it is pointed at. I would do some research on this if you go to court but if the cop had the radar gun pointed at you and behind you was a large truck the speed would not be related to your lighter car.

Once again I heard this some where and am not sure it is true.

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Even with cruise control on when you go down an incline you speed up especially if you have an SUV or Truck.........................

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I realize this. But when you see a cop your natural reaction is to immediately look at your speedometer. I was still at 70. Also, I drive a small car.

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lololol. complaining about 100 bucks. I just got a 400 dollar ticket in california. boooo yah, im sure glad we have the highway patrol to "enforce safety". They should just change their name to "tax collection based on who we feel like collecting from". I have been pulled over 4 times, 0 warnings. I have been in a car where a girl got pulled over 3 times and they got 0 tickets. The CHP should literally be shut down and paying out massive class action lawsuits, not given a position of massive power.

example of how legitimate the CHP is:

if you want to submit a complaint they wont allow you to do so through their website, you have to go to their website, print out a form, fill it out and mail it. Making it as complicated as possible for citizens to give feedback to an organization that is supposed to care about safety is just mind boggling and pretty much spot on proof that they know they are doing a miserable job.

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I am not 100% sure but if you do go to court I believe radar picks up the heaviest vehicle it is pointed at. I would do some research on this if you go to court but if the cop had the radar gun pointed at you and behind you was a large truck the speed would not be related to your lighter car.

Once again I heard this some where and am not sure it is true.

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wtf are you talking about?

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lololol. complaining about 100 bucks. I just got a 400 dollar ticket in california. boooo yah, im sure glad we have the highway patrol to "enforce safety". They should just change their name to "tax collection based on who we feel like collecting from". I have been pulled over 4 times, 0 warnings. I have been in a car where a girl got pulled over 3 times and they got 0 tickets. The CHP should literally be shut down and paying out massive class action lawsuits, not given a position of massive power.

example of how legitimate the CHP is:

if you want to submit a complaint they wont allow you to do so through their website, you have to go to their website, print out a form, fill it out and mail it. Making it as complicated as possible for citizens to give feedback to an organization that is supposed to care about safety is just mind boggling and pretty much spot on proof that they know they are doing a miserable job.

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wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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ban limesparks for being chp shill imo.

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ban limesparks for being chp shill imo.

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LOL. I'm from CA, but haven't ever been pulled over by the CHP. I'm fully aware of their retardedness though.

This ticket was out of state.

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This ticket was out of state.

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You're screwed and that's the reason he pulled you over. Pay it and make sure your tires are the right size.

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WTF I wasn't speeding!

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So last week on my way out of town for Thanksgiving I'm driving down the interstate with my cruise control set at 70. The speed limit is 65.

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Well, obviously, but you know what I mean. No one gets pulled over for going 5 over on an interstate.

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if the cop wanted to be an extra [censored], he could've written you up for 70 in a 65. its happened to me.

but not because i said "im doing 70 in a 65", however, that's pretty much admitting guilt. NEVER admit that. whenever they ask, you always say you were going whatever the posted limit is.

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Oh boy.

I don't have time to respond right now.

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This ticket was out of state.

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You're screwed and that's the reason he pulled you over. Pay it and make sure your tires are the right size.

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Yeah I suspected the CA plates had something to do with it. But it's not like you can prove that.

Tires are the tires that came on the car. It's only a year old. So, unless my speedometer is completely [censored], he was just being a dick.

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Now maybe I am completely off here, but can you ask a cop to see his radar gun reading if you don't believe him when you get pulled over?

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but not because i said "im doing 70 in a 65", however, that's pretty much admitting guilt. NEVER admit that. whenever they ask, you always say you were going whatever the posted limit is.

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Well, I said that because he first told me I was going OVER 80, and when you get into the 15+ over the limit range, tickets start getting real expensive.

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going to court is key. if you can't make that commitment, just pay the ticket.

you're only play here is to game the system. file for discovery asking for 1.)the front and back of the ticket (cops make notes on the back). you effed yourself by admitting 70, but see if he made note of it. 2.)the method used to determine speeding (probably radar). 3.)certification of device and is it within valid dates 4.)officers training on said device.

i don't know how familiar you are with court procedures, but you need to be prepared to put him on the stand and ask questions that force him to contradict himself, that is the way you will win. remember that whatever sob story you have isn't admissible unless YOU yourself testify and you shouldn't be doing that imo. everything hangs in finding fault in something in the discovery and having the officer acknowledge this on the stand.

i'm not a lawyer so take everything i said at face value, i have done this with reasonable success so i'm just speaking from experience.

p.s. i've used other methods too, like traffic regulations. certain roads and highways require valid engineering surveys so you can potentially invalidate a speed limit based on expired or faulty surveys. again, this depends on your local.

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but not because i said "im doing 70 in a 65", however, that's pretty much admitting guilt. NEVER admit that. whenever they ask, you always say you were going whatever the posted limit is.

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Well, I said that because he first told me I was going OVER 80, and when you get into the 15+ over the limit range, tickets start getting real expensive.

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but still, you've admitted to speeding no matter what. if you go to court and fight the ticket, you have to admit in court that you said you were doing 70. now fighting the ticket will not save you any money because the difference of $35 is probably going to be eaten up in the "Court fees" they charge etc.

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Why didn't you ask to see the Radar gun to prove that it had registered 80MPH?

Maybe its not law there but in a real country where I live (Canada) we have a law stating that at any time you are allowed to request to see the reading on the Radar gun to show that it was you and you were infact going the speed that the douche bag stated.

This helps to prevent them from screwing you by making it up... which many ass hole cops would do.

Not all cops are pricks, but often the power goes to their heads and they become ridiculous.

This has happend to a coupel friends that became cops.

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good god people.

1. get speedometer calibrated
2. tip guy doing it
3. case dismissed

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Why didn't you ask to see the Radar gun to prove that it had registered 80MPH?

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Didn't know I could do this. Or IF I can do this. It depends on the State here in the US I would imagine. But I'll sure as hell start asking from now on.

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Why didn't you ask to see the Radar gun to prove that it had registered 80MPH?

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I mean, sure there is a law that allows this, but most cops will just say "oh wait, no i mean i was pacing you". I've actually had that happen to me twice, explained what happened in the courtroom twice and of course the judge threw out the case both times. However, I dont get why I pretty much proved that the officer was guilty of prejury and no one cared at all. my problem is far far more with the cops. I think most judges i have seen generally act reasonably fairly.

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lololol. complaining about 100 bucks. I just got a 400 dollar ticket in california. boooo yah, im sure glad we have the highway patrol to "enforce safety". They should just change their name to "tax collection based on who we feel like collecting from". I have been pulled over 4 times, 0 warnings. I have been in a car where a girl got pulled over 3 times and they got 0 tickets. The CHP should literally be shut down and paying out massive class action lawsuits, not given a position of massive power.

example of how legitimate the CHP is:

if you want to submit a complaint they wont allow you to do so through their website, you have to go to their website, print out a form, fill it out and mail it. Making it as complicated as possible for citizens to give feedback to an organization that is supposed to care about safety is just mind boggling and pretty much spot on proof that they know they are doing a miserable job.

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I'm sure it wouldn't have anything to do with a bunch of crybabies overloading their system with stupid complaints of absolutely zero merit, right? It couldn't possibly be a way of making sure that if they're getting complaints, they're legitimate and important enough that the person filing actually went to the "trouble" of printing a document, filling it out, and putting it in their mailbox? I guess it wouldn't be a burden at all on the system to have to dedicate TONS of hours to lame "complaints" filed over the internet...

Wow.

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yeah you got me, government organizations being accountable to the people who fund them seems excessive.

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yeah you got me, government organizations being accountable to the people who fund them seems excessive.

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Which is precisely what I said.

Reading FTW.

What I said, and I'll try to dumb it down a bit...

They take paper complaints because if its important enough that you have to file a legit complaint, what "trouble" is it to you to take 5 minutes, print a form and put it in your damn mailbox?

Or, you could whine about having to actually do something for yourself on an internet forum. That won't change anything, but it sure does make it more entertaining for me.

Do you realize what you're even complaining about?

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good god people.

1. get speedometer calibrated
2. tip guy doing it
3. case dismissed

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yeah you got me, government organizations being accountable to the people who fund them seems excessive.

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Which is precisely what I said.

Reading FTW.

What I said, and I'll try to dumb it down a bit...

They take paper complaints because if its important enough that you have to file a legit complaint, what "trouble" is it to you to take 5 minutes, print a form and put it in your damn mailbox?

Or, you could whine about having to actually do something for yourself on an internet forum. That won't change anything, but it sure does make it more entertaining for me.

Do you realize what you're even complaining about?

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I was being super sarcastic.

edit: it was probably harder for them to put up a pdf than it would be to just build the form into their website. Also reading complaints and having them in some sort of database is miles ahead of accepting mail suggestions. This isnt 1963.

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lololol. complaining about 100 bucks. I just got a 400 dollar ticket in california. boooo yah, im sure glad we have the highway patrol to "enforce safety". They should just change their name to "tax collection based on who we feel like collecting from". I have been pulled over 4 times, 0 warnings. I have been in a car where a girl got pulled over 3 times and they got 0 tickets. The CHP should literally be shut down and paying out massive class action lawsuits, not given a position of massive power.


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QFMFT

They should change their name to "Tax Collection Service of People Who Drive Better Cars Than Us, Provided They Don't Have Boobs"

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yeah you got me, government organizations being accountable to the people who fund them seems excessive.

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Which is precisely what I said.

Reading FTW.

What I said, and I'll try to dumb it down a bit...

They take paper complaints because if its important enough that you have to file a legit complaint, what "trouble" is it to you to take 5 minutes, print a form and put it in your damn mailbox?

Or, you could whine about having to actually do something for yourself on an internet forum. That won't change anything, but it sure does make it more entertaining for me.

Do you realize what you're even complaining about?

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I was being super sarcastic.

edit: it was probably harder for them to put up a pdf than it would be to just build the form into their website. Also reading complaints and having them in some sort of database is miles ahead of accepting mail suggestions. This isnt 1963.

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Fair enough. It just seems to me that it makes plenty of sense to use paper forms, at least for the type of thing where you don't want to enable 25000 people a day complaining about the ticket they got. I think things like the paper forms (and I will admit I have spent VERY little time in CA and have no experiences with CHP) are a great way to kinda prevent people from just going off in 30 seconds on the internet because they're pissed.

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yeah you got me, government organizations being accountable to the people who fund them seems excessive.

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Which is precisely what I said.

Reading FTW.

What I said, and I'll try to dumb it down a bit...

They take paper complaints because if its important enough that you have to file a legit complaint, what "trouble" is it to you to take 5 minutes, print a form and put it in your damn mailbox?

Or, you could whine about having to actually do something for yourself on an internet forum. That won't change anything, but it sure does make it more entertaining for me.

Do you realize what you're even complaining about?

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I was being super sarcastic.

edit: it was probably harder for them to put up a pdf than it would be to just build the form into their website. Also reading complaints and having them in some sort of database is miles ahead of accepting mail suggestions. This isnt 1963.

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Fair enough. It just seems to me that it makes plenty of sense to use paper forms, at least for the type of thing where you don't want to enable 25000 people a day complaining about the ticket they got. I think things like the paper forms (and I will admit I have spent VERY little time in CA and have no experiences with CHP) are a great way to kinda prevent people from just going off in 30 seconds on the internet because they're pissed.

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Whatever dude, you like peyton manning. Burrrrrrrrrrrn!

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ask to see the radar gun because they technically have to keep it logged in the radar gun and it'll digitally show it to you.

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just throw the ticket in the trash. and if the government calls you just tell them to lick some balls.

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Now maybe I am completely off here, but can you ask a cop to see his radar gun reading if you don't believe him when you get pulled over?

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You can, but I doubt he'd show you. They do have to prove calibration though, and they must have the certificate at court to prove it.

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just throw the ticket in the trash. and if the government calls you just tell them to lick some balls.

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lol first correct response

Also, wtf at OP driving 70 in a 65
Open er up a little bit granny

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lol first correct response

Also, wtf at OP driving 70 in a 65
Open er up a little bit granny

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In all fairness to myself, the roads were icy, the cops were out in force, and it was early in the morning and I hadn't had my coffee yet.

I normally go 75-80 on that stretch... the one day I drive a more reasonable speed I get pulled over... wtf?

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I got pulled over doing 112 in a 65 once. Somehow the cop said I was going 75. Then I went to court and the cop didnt show up so i paid nothing. gg justice system.