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BillNye 11-04-2007 06:19 PM

Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor - AP
 
Alot of people agree that Adrian Peterson is a damn good RB but I still am reading some excuses that are being made for why he is overrated. I know that the people who watched the games know how good he is, but for those who base their opinions off of ESPN, and Sportscenter...

The Vikings have a worse pass offense than last year. Currently 32nd in passing, 1st in rushing. I think its safe to assume that every team in the NFL knows that we are going to run the ball. Teams have stacked the box all year, but our Rushing offense has only improved? A lot of people who don't watch Vikings games keep spouting off about how they have some "godlike offensive line." I watch every game, I know that Hutchinson is a great Guard, but besides him this team is Average. McKinney is an average LT, Birk is a pass blocking specialist and makes the probowl purely on reputation (a pretty good center, dont get me wrong). Heres the big thing...Right Guard is Anothy Herrera who has started 2 games this year, and Artis Hicks who was the starter last year and through the first 6 games this year. Ryan Cook is a 2nd year player who played in his rookie season and is far below average like Herrera / Hicks. (I do like Herrera > Hicks fwiw).

Running back is a position that is commonly overrated because of great Oline play. Adrian Peterson gets it done w/ an average Oline (by no means top 10). He gets it done w/ no threat of a passing attack as well. He is simply the best pure runner in the league.

Heres my proof as to why the offensive line is simply average:

Last year:
Chester Taylor (average RB) with the same Oline for 90% of the games.


Games: 15/15 starts
Attempts: 303
Yards: 1,216
Average: 4.0
TDs: 6 rushing (Lengths: 4, 95, 1, 1, 1, 1 )
REC TDS: 0

Adrian Peterson:
through 8 games has:

Games 8/5 starts?, (not sure...moderately irrelevant)
Attempts: 158
Yards: 1036 yards.
Average: 6.6
Long: 73
TDS: 8 (Lengths: 11, 67, 73, 35, 20, 1, 64, 46)
REC TDS: 1 (Lengths: 60)

He is AVERAGING 1 play over 50yds / game, has 9! Last year Taylor had 1 over 50 all season.


See the difference? I for one never would of imagined the difference an elite RB can make, as I was on the "RBs are the most easily replaced / overrated position in the NFL" club. Yes, the Oline has had some good games, but watch the Eagles game and other games. There weren't any holes at all!

Its my hope that the Vikings will use their star to retrieve Cowher out of retirement and actually win some games next year.

Also... Leading the league in rushing as a rookie, owning the single game rushing record, and the 4th best all purpose yards in a game is a pretty decent sign that you are good.

NFL.com's awesome video highlights:
week 9

Week 6

The rest of the videos you can tab through if you just click on his name in the left navigational bar.

wiper 11-04-2007 06:25 PM

Re: Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor - AP
 
good day for this thread...295 and 3 touches has nothing to do with overrated..

Arnold_O 11-04-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor -
 
this guy's nasty. already has the nfl record
i thought mckinnie was a can't miss left tackle when he came out. only average?

prohornblower 11-04-2007 08:02 PM

Re: Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor - AP
 
AP is turning into the runner a lot of people thought Reggie Bush was going to be. He's fun to watch. Good on Minnesota for drafting him. Another great runner from the state of Texas.

vixticator 11-04-2007 08:05 PM

Re: Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor - AP
 
Pretty obviously not overrated, or maybe I missed out on something. Adrian Peterson may be having one of the greatest seasons ever. Dude has no passing game, different QB every week. It doesn't matter. Just rips off monster gains like it's no problem. It's nice to consistently gain 3 yards or w/e but a guy who will run for 40+ like 3 times a game is CLEARLY superior no matter how bad he is the rest of time assuming it isn't fumbles.

Russ M. 11-04-2007 08:11 PM

Re: Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor -
 
Is it the general consensus that AP would have been a top pick in the draft had he not broken his collarbone?

Fonkey123 11-04-2007 08:16 PM

Re: Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor -
 
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Is it the general consensus that AP would have been a top pick in the draft had he not broken his collarbone?

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Oakland was going QB no matter what. Lion had Kevin Jones. Cleveland needed to sure up line. I'd say he'd go 4 to tampa.

CharlieDontSurf 11-04-2007 08:47 PM

Re: Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor -
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Is it the general consensus that AP would have been a top pick in the draft had he not broken his collarbone?

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Oakland was going QB no matter what. Lion had Kevin Jones. Cleveland needed to sure up line. I'd say he'd go 4 to tampa.

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Cards were really tempted but with Edge and our line being so awful last year we had to go OT. Sucks because our line has played well without our 1st pick. And AP would have been sweet on our team..oh well

wiper 11-04-2007 09:01 PM

Re: Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor -
 
something i found strange...

original stats i saw were that he had 295 yards today, tying him with jamal lewis for the single game most yards...an hour later i check, and it's 296, giving him the record...

home-cooking? and how does that work?

chim17 11-04-2007 09:02 PM

Re: Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor -
 
[ QUOTE ]
something i found strange...

original stats i saw were that he had 295 yards today, tying him with jamal lewis for the single game most yards...an hour later i check, and it's 296, giving him the record...

home-cooking? and how does that work?

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They incorrectly recorded him taking a knee for a 1 yard loss.

296 is accurate and was changed like 30 seconds after game end.


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