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The4thFilm 11-06-2007 05:26 PM

AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.
 
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t7220)
Button (t1215)
Hero (t1575)
BB (t3490)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">CO raises to t4400</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t1350 (All-in)

-EV with CO range 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs or better.
Only +0.8% EV with CO range 22+,A2+,K2+,Q2s+,Q6o+,J7s+,J9o+,T8s+,98s

I thought this was a fairly easy call?

ADLinden 11-06-2007 05:33 PM

Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.
 
well has he been shoving every hand like he should? if so, then i usually call

RemyXO 11-06-2007 05:34 PM

Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.
 
WTF, standard. You have only enough money for two more orbits.

CO's range here is pretty wide, he has all three covered, and BB won't risk his entire stack without a super premium hand, since there are two shorties fighting to get into the money.

TruFloridaGator 11-06-2007 05:46 PM

Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.
 
It is a fairly easy call, OP, why do you think his range is tighter than that?

DevinLake 11-06-2007 05:59 PM

Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.
 
The reason SnGPT says it's -EV is because there is a shorter stack. But, it's not really taking into account how close you are to that short stack, and what happens if the short stack gets a walk, or doubles up.

I think this is a good spot to take a slight -EV spot. Not to mention, CO could be extremely wide there if he's good.

billybeartku 11-06-2007 06:13 PM

Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.
 
I call here all day. how can you fold when you only have enough money for two more rounds? I'm sure AQo here beats co's range drastically. So, call like a man.

eurythmech 11-06-2007 06:17 PM

Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.
 
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So, call like a man.

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What makes this gender related?

The4thFilm 11-06-2007 06:23 PM

Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.
 
[ QUOTE ]
The reason SnGPT says it's -EV is because there is a shorter stack. But, it's not really taking into account how close you are to that short stack, and what happens if the short stack gets a walk, or doubles up.

[/ QUOTE ]So is the program essentially garbage?

plexiq 11-06-2007 06:25 PM

Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.
 
The CO should be on ATC, and definitely much looser than OP's estimates. This is a pretty easy call if we can assume the CO is at least halfway decent.

ICM tools will show this as push when you put in a reasonable CO-range.

The Venetian 11-06-2007 06:29 PM

Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
The reason SnGPT says it's -EV is because there is a shorter stack. But, it's not really taking into account how close you are to that short stack, and what happens if the short stack gets a walk, or doubles up.

[/ QUOTE ]So is the program essentially garbage?

[/ QUOTE ]

Garbage in, garbage out.


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