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RipperTEQ 06-04-2007 06:20 AM

[NL10] KK faces 3bet PF and flop push
 
Villain has been TAG, 9.5/2.5/1.2 through some 50 odd hands and I have not seen him showdown a hand yet.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $3.20
BB: $10.55
UTG: $6.05
UTG+1: $3.95
MP1: $5.80
<font color="black">Hero (MP2): $9.70</font>
MP3: $3.90
CO: $5.80
BTN: $8.25

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.10, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $0.45</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.30</font>, 6 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $2.60</font>, Hero calls $1.30

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($5.45) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP1 bets all-in for $3.20</font>, Hero


Question is, am I ever happy to get it all in here PF? That min raises begs me to put him in. Seems AK could be played this way if he plans to push any non Q or K flop, but it's a pretty deep thinking for NL10. His line is super strong to me.

My thought process was this:

Based on his PFR % and taggish nature, I see him only doing this with AK, AA, KK, QQ, JJ and maybe TT (thought I doubt this). There are 19 hand combinations of the pocket pairs that he might play this way. I'm ahead of 6, the QQ, tied with the Kc Kd , behind the 6 AA combinations as well as the 6 JJ and TT combinations. AK has 8 remaining combinations total and i'm ahead of all but only marginally so to AKc (11 outs for him = ~ 44% at flop). So 27 total hand combinations for his range, and I am ahead of 14 of them. That's 51.8%. My call is $3.20 into $8.65 so 2.7 to 1 on my money. It looks like a clear call, but my instinct tells me he would have put everything in preflop with AK to see all 5 cards. Thoughts?

Panthro 06-04-2007 06:39 AM

Re: [NL10] KK faces 3bet PF and flop push
 
50 hands is a real small sample. I get it in PF and feel good about it. Plus he only has 56BB's.

CaptVimes 06-04-2007 07:14 AM

Re: [NL10] KK faces 3bet PF and flop push
 
Push preflop.

Ampelmann 06-04-2007 08:00 AM

Re: [NL10] KK faces 3bet PF and flop push
 
Unless I hava a sick read I just shove preflop. Villain only has a half stack (and I'd even shove 100BB here, usually).

If you have some sick read (never raise/3-bets without A's), however, you have a very easy fold here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] (edit: preflop, that is).

Then again, 50 hands is way too little to have any significance.


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