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Frond 10-30-2007 06:27 PM

AJo in the CO
 
8/16 live table. Fairly new table.

Villain in hand is the BB who although this only a few orbits in seems pretty straight forward. I have only played a few hands so far and missed some draws.

Folded to Hero in the CO who raises with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Button calls, SB calls, BB 3 bets, Hero Calls, Button calls SB calls. 4 ways to the flop

(11.5 SBs) Flop is A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] SB checks, BB bets, Hero Raises, Button folds, SB Folds, BB 3 bets, Hero calls. HU to the turn

(8.75 BBs) Turn comes the K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] BB bets, Hero???

Am I done here? BB obv loves his hand.

One Outer 10-30-2007 06:34 PM

Re: AJo in the CO
 
Yeah, you're done. If we had any sort of read on him getting out of line I might consider a calldown, but even then it's dicey, IMO.

This is a spot where I'm bleeding bets in my own play. I've been working on it a lot lately. I don't have to always call down top pair heads up, I don't have to always call down top pair heads up...

Qwijibo 10-30-2007 06:37 PM

Re: AJo in the CO
 
A straightforward player sure plays AKo this way, AQo too, against a late position pf raise. He could have several other things here too pf, like big pocket pairs, but he'd prob slow down by the turn if that were the case. Flop is fine, I might get away from this on the turn however.

Niediam 10-30-2007 06:39 PM

Re: AJo in the CO
 
Crappy turn but I'm still calling down.

Xhad 10-30-2007 06:55 PM

Re: AJo in the CO
 
So you're getting 9.75:1 now, and 10.75:2 on showing down?

[ QUOTE ]
Board: Ah Ks 8c Kd 2h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 13.028% 00.00% 13.03% 0 183529.00 { AdJc }
Hand 1: 86.972% 73.95% 13.03% 1041690 183531.00 { KK+, 88, AJs+, AJo+ }


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1,403,441 games 32.562 secs 43,100 games/sec

Board: Ah Ks 8c Kd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 16.763% 01.18% 15.58% 16544 218721.00 { AdJc }
Hand 1: 83.237% 67.65% 15.58% 949485 218722.50 { KK+, 88, AJs+, AJo+ }

[/ QUOTE ]

EDIT: WTF, I go stove and then ignore my own math. Fold here unless villain's range is looser than this (unlikely) or you can guarantee that you will play perfectly on the river (impossible)

chesspain 10-30-2007 07:02 PM

Re: AJo in the CO
 
[ QUOTE ]
A straightforward player sure plays AKo this way, AQo too, against a late position pf raise. He could have several other things here too pf, like big pocket pairs...

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He does not have TT/JJ/QQ.

TheCount212 10-30-2007 07:02 PM

Re: AJo in the CO
 
I'm with One Outer on this one. Villain is now value-betting his aces or kings full on the turn. Don't be a sucka..

Xhad 10-30-2007 07:03 PM

Re: AJo in the CO
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A straightforward player sure plays AKo this way, AQo too, against a late position pf raise. He could have several other things here too pf, like big pocket pairs...

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He does not have TT/JJ/QQ.

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As of the flop 3bet I agree, but most people can have these hands preflop and as of the flop bet.

Qwijibo 10-30-2007 07:13 PM

Re: AJo in the CO
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A straightforward player sure plays AKo this way, AQo too, against a late position pf raise. He could have several other things here too pf, like big pocket pairs...

[/ QUOTE ]

He does not have TT/JJ/QQ.

[/ QUOTE ]

I didn't say he did, only that these things were in his pf range. In fact, I said that the action indicated that he prob didn't have these and that AK and AQ were more likely.

James. 10-30-2007 07:17 PM

Re: AJo in the CO
 
i don't think i'm too crazy about the flop raise in this situation.


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