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mongidig 11-29-2007 02:29 PM

Preflop against a Maniac.
 
The Maniac is in the Hijack. He raises almost everyhand. Very aggressive on the flop and turn but strangely turns passive on river unless he has the nuts. Gives a lot of free showdowns(mostly because he doesn't have anything). He will always cap the betting given the chance preflop.

The blinds are super loose and will most likely call even if it is three bets to them.

I am on the button. How do you play these hands? My image doesn't matter to these people.

1)ATo
2)A8o
3)KJs
4)88
5)66
6)JTs
7)QJo

BadBigBabar 11-29-2007 02:32 PM

Re: Preflop against a Maniac.
 
1) i'd 3bet
2) i'd fold but i guess 3betting is playable also
3) i'd either 3bet or coldcall; with 3betting being playable
4) 3bet
5) 3bet or fold
6) coldcall or fold
7) fold

if the blinds are calling any two cards even when it's 3bets to them, your position on the button is obviously very important and the ace high and pocket pair hands are ahead of everybody's range. i suspect the blinds are actually going to fold some here but that's not really the point. the king high and middle-y hands i'm not as sure about so i'm more conservative with those. this is a profitable but high-variance spot to be in at the table -- good luck!

NinaWilliams 11-29-2007 04:26 PM

Re: Preflop against a Maniac.
 
1) 3 bet
2) fold with these blinds, usually 3 bet.
3) fist pump 3 bet
4) 3
5) 3 betting and cold calling are both fine. 3 bet with blinds that have a fold button.
6) "" but be more inclined to cold call
7) fold

ship it pls 11-29-2007 10:22 PM

Re: Preflop against a Maniac.
 
1)3b
2)3b
3)3b
4)3b
5)3b
6)3b
7)3b

Mr Rick 11-30-2007 11:36 AM

Re: Preflop against a Maniac.
 
[ QUOTE ]
1)3b
2)3b
3)3b
4)3b
5)3b
6)3b
7)3b

[/ QUOTE ]
You are ahead of ATC here. I would want a favorable flop if either or both blinds call. But if you manage to get HU, I press my pairs and go to battle if I hit any piece of the flop with the other hands. With the Ax hands I call down post flop as maniac is crazy post flop too.

Timogen 11-30-2007 11:53 AM

Re: Preflop against a Maniac.
 
I 3-bet all of these. If it was folded to me I would be raising anyway against these Blinds. The addition of the maniac only helps you b/c you are way ahead of him and you stand to make alot of money with his predictable pattern and your position.

emerson 12-01-2007 02:48 AM

Re: Preflop against a Maniac.
 
[ QUOTE ]
The Maniac is in the Hijack. He raises almost everyhand. Very aggressive on the flop and turn but strangely turns passive on river unless he has the nuts. Gives a lot of free showdowns(mostly because he doesn't have anything). He will always cap the betting given the chance preflop.

The blinds are super loose and will most likely call even if it is three bets to them.

I am on the button. How do you play these hands? My image doesn't matter to these people.

1)ATo
2)A8o
3)KJs
4)88
5)66
6)JTs
7)QJo

[/ QUOTE ]

Going against the crowd big time here. Most of these are folds in this type of game. Don't try to outbet maniacs in multi-way pots with marginal hands just because you are ahead of their range. You only play the very best hands in these types of games. See Sklansky's advice for playing in wild games. I think what you describe qualifies.

If the blinds were tight then most of these hands would be 3 bets vs an open raise from the hijack.

88 is really the only close call here. 66 wants at least 5 way action to call more than one bet and you'd be looking at only 4 way. The weakest hands in this group are A8o and QJo, the two most likely to be dominated.

GBL 12-01-2007 05:36 AM

Re: Preflop against a Maniac.
 
[ QUOTE ]
1)3b
2)3b
3)3b
4)3b
5)3b
6)3b
7)3b

[/ QUOTE ]


YES YES YES!!!!

27offsooot 12-01-2007 12:39 PM

Re: Preflop against a Maniac.
 
I would cold call with J high (and maybe Q high), but snap 3 bet the rest.


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