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HoldenFoldem 06-07-2007 12:46 PM

ioverplayed this draw...better line please
 
This hand started out 3 way which is good by me for better pot odds on this draw. It quickly became two way and i am not sure i should even have called the flop bet never mind the turn.....thoughts.....

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($114.70)
BB ($89)
UTG ($73.76)
MP ($139.80)
Button ($124.49)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, Hero calls $3.50, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($16) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2.5</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $15, BB folds.

Turn: ($48.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30.

River: ($108.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $55</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $163.50

DaCooler 06-07-2007 12:51 PM

Re: ioverplayed this draw...better line please
 
Fold preflop, fold flop, fold turn, there, ez

HoldenFoldem 06-07-2007 01:04 PM

Re: ioverplayed this draw...better line please
 
[ QUOTE ]
Fold preflop, fold flop, fold turn, there, ez

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you would not call pf really??

LSP16 06-07-2007 01:28 PM

Re: ioverplayed this draw...better line please
 
I'm not folding this flop.... pas pre-flop though

Hosehound25 06-07-2007 01:36 PM

Re: ioverplayed this draw...better line please
 
I would fold preflop yes. You're playing OOP and for a flush or two pair only. I would fold flop also as the BB is still to act behind you and you could be shut out of the hand.

The.Accountant 06-07-2007 01:40 PM

Re: ioverplayed this draw...better line please
 
I'm not folding this flop ever..Just treat BB's bet as a check.

Hosehound25 06-07-2007 01:44 PM

Re: ioverplayed this draw...better line please
 
I think calling the flop is very player dependent. If we know this guy will stack off if you hit your flush on the turn then its worth it. But if I raise it to $15 and someone cold calls me I'm going to be very weary of the flush draw or a big hand. Hence, if the draw hits and you bet it I'm likely not paying you off very often.

keikiwai 06-07-2007 02:10 PM

Re: ioverplayed this draw...better line please
 
this is a fold on the turn, villain knows what you have, and you prob. don't have the implied odds to call, since i doubt he's paying off

HoldenFoldem 06-08-2007 12:46 AM

Re: ioverplayed this draw...better line please
 
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this is a fold on the turn, villain knows what you have, and you prob. don't have the implied odds to call, since i doubt he's paying off

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I think this suits me best. In hindsight i agree that villain probably knows what i am up to here, when we get to the turn.

My thinking preflop is that i play a suited ace like a small pair. you are trying to hit your draw but don't want to pay too much to do that...and that is whre i made the mistake.


Thank you to all poster for your replies. Good luck out there.


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