KK deep OOP vs. 6max limp-raise
 

Villain in this hand limps often and is something like 38/14/2. He's limp-raised me once before in 6max with KK in probably 1 or 2k hands together.

6-max 2/4NL and I'm in the SB with $750 and villain has me covered. Villain open limps the cutoff and I raise to $20 from the SB. The BB calls and then the limper raises to $65. I...?

This is one situation I've never been in before and really had no clue as to what to do. The range I'd put him on is AA, KK, and QQ. But I feel as if QQ is a little less likely. AK is probably a possibility as well but significantly more unlikely than QQ.

Re: KK deep OOP vs. 6max limp-raise
 

4-bet to $200ish. Folding and calling OOP with another player to act are both pretty bad. Your range is also definitely too tight for a 38/14 who limps often.

Re: KK deep OOP vs. 6max limp-raise
 

but he doesn't limp/raise often, which is a very key point here pf.

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also, look at the size of villains 3bet. Very weak, considering he has two others in with him as well. To me this line is much more often a monster than someone 3betting AK/JJ/QQ. I think those hands 3bet much more pf, as well as open first in at the CO.

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also, look at the size of villains 3bet. Very weak, considering he has two others in with him as well. To me this line is much more often a monster than someone 3betting AK/JJ/QQ. I think those hands 3bet much more pf, as well as open first in at the CO.

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So then put him on aces and fold if you're going to be this weak-tight. Seriously, anything but 4-betting in this spot is awful.

Re: KK deep OOP vs. 6max limp-raise
 

lol @ folding. are you serious? dont get your panties in a knot yet.

weak/tight has nothing to do in how you play this hand pf.

Why are we 4betting pf? is it only because we put an "xx" villain on a range which we have beat, not including any of the reads or history we have? poker is more than just a range >> action, I'm sure you know this.

If hero would be sick about 4betting and being shoved on, then this is a clear call with re-assement on the flop. I don't see why he HAS to 4bet here, like there are absolutes in poker.

Re: KK deep OOP vs. 6max limp-raise
 

call

Re: KK deep OOP vs. 6max limp-raise
 

I was never planning on folding pf for just $45 more.

I felt I could either :

A) 4-bet and call shove
B) 4-bet and fold to shove
C) Call, and decide on flop.

I honestly don't like any of those options.
If I call, am I stacking off on a 238r board? What board am I really hoping for?

Or, should I just stop being a nit and suck it up and get stacked anytime I have KK and someone has AA?

I have no problem getting it in with 100bb. And if he open raised there's a decent chance I'd get it in with almost 200. But as played, I know he's very strong and he's given me the chance to not lose it all if he has me.

I ended up calling and made an easy fold on an AQ4 flop, as I was only ahead of a spewy JJ.