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Burnsabre 11-13-2007 01:33 PM

QQ troubles vs a tilter and a LAG
 
CO is 54/9/.98, has lost a bunch of bets in the last couple orbits and is very likely looking to stack off. Button is 60/15/1.6 over 40 hands, he seems like he can think and handread.


Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
Converter


Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, BTN calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO caps</font>, BTN calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (0SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BTN raises</font>, Hero?

CO has a little more than 1 BB left

TheHip41 11-13-2007 03:30 PM

Re: QQ troubles vs a tilter and a LAG
 
I fold.

If you have the best hand, this is one of those spots you can't really do much about.

ZOMG_RIGGED! 11-13-2007 03:34 PM

Re: QQ troubles vs a tilter and a LAG
 
Fold? If the CO has 1 BB he wants all in, and could have basically any 2 above average cards and no promise of a king. Why not lead the flop, CO is clearly going to raise, and now face the Btn with two cold? he may fold a weak king, but if he calls we're clearly [censored] and can give up and not just forfeit this nice sized pot. BTn hand cant be that huge if he just called on the button against a short stack.

RazzFazz 11-13-2007 04:49 PM

Re: QQ troubles vs a tilter and a LAG
 
I would likely 3bet. CO is then likely to reraise all in. I check the turn. I would call a bet from btn player on the turn and c/f the river if he bets again. I would also c/f any Ace on the turn. Any one player of these two could really have you beat... . But I dont trust people who are nearly all in in FL. So I would most likely try to show that hand down... .

Bruce D 11-13-2007 09:06 PM

Re: QQ troubles vs a tilter and a LAG
 
I would treat this hand as a HU battle vs the btn. I am taking this hand to showdown. You said that you think the btn can handread. What does he take you to have? Does he think he can get you to fold TT-QQ, AT-Q by raising?

My preference is to 3 bang here because I never believe these post flop isoraises.

ZOMG_RIGGED! 11-13-2007 09:49 PM

Re: QQ troubles vs a tilter and a LAG
 
why c/3b this flop and leave ourselves guessing as to what the Button has? Wouldn't leading the flop and facing the button with two cold get a much more honest response?

Bruce D 11-13-2007 10:26 PM

Re: QQ troubles vs a tilter and a LAG
 
Yes, but as played, I 3 bang it.

I prefer leading but I don't think it gives us any better advantage except that perhaps the CO stacks off and gets the btn out of the hand.

Apanage 11-13-2007 10:39 PM

Re: QQ troubles vs a tilter and a LAG
 
I´d probably call down but i think it is really close to a fold.But after only 40 hands and with those stats I´m not that convinced Btn has a brain. If he has a brain I´d fold.


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