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zooot 11-26-2007 11:02 PM

NL50 JhTh -- How do you play this one?
 
Villain: 32/17/2.00/35

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $50
BTN: $87.30
Hero (SB): $49
BB: $50.75
UTG: $93.15
MP: $171.55

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $2</font>, BTN calls $2, Hero calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($6.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $4.50</font>, BTN calls $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($20) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8, CO calls $8

River: ($44) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $72.80 and is All-In</font>


Super passive line, hand def under-repped, but not sure how to proceed. I think his most likely holdings are clubs or a Ten, possibly AT. Really unsure about how to assess this hand.

Thanks

qdmcg 11-26-2007 11:06 PM

Re: NL50 How Do You Play This JhTh?
 
easy river fold imo, splitting/losing the majority of the time

I think all other streets are probably okay

ICMoney 11-26-2007 11:12 PM

Re: NL50 JhTh -- How do you play this one?
 
How is your hand underrepped?

You call pf.
CC flop.
CC turn.

You have at least two pair here always.

He was not the pfr but took the lead when he could have checked behind turn.

He can check behind AK or w/e on the river and see a showdown if he wants.

He has AT 15% of the time and a flush 75% of the time.

Even if he only bet pot, calling for a chop sucks.

Maybe block river for $15 or something?

ICMoney 11-26-2007 11:15 PM

Re: NL50 JhTh -- How do you play this one?
 
Missed stack sizes.

I guess you have to call 35 or so.

I still dump it.

Clover78 11-26-2007 11:15 PM

Re: NL50 JhTh -- How do you play this one?
 
Definitely looks like you would be calling a big all in for a chop at best and more than likely a loss. The 5-10% of the time that he does have air cannot justify making this call.

zooot 11-26-2007 11:20 PM

Re: NL50 JhTh -- How do you play this one?
 
yeah, i guess my hand is not "under-rep'd" since it's not even that strong on this board.

so we are in agreement then that pretty much the only holdings for villain are a large % clubs, smaller % Ten, v. small to zero % anything else?

if so then it's a clear fold...

billip62 11-26-2007 11:51 PM

Re: NL50 JhTh -- How do you play this one?
 
the btn's bet size on the turn would usually get me to fire out a reraise. He's bet is so small it's almost like he's saying 'I can fold the straight'. If he has the flush, nh.

As played I think I'd pass on the riv I can't see what he'd have that isn't a chop or beat you.


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