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CaptVimes 11-04-2007 11:42 PM

NL25 KJ vs half stack
 
Villain is 38/5/3 over around 60 some hands. If I bet and he shove's I don't feel like I'm good ever, but feel like I might have to call. Thoughts? C/F?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($44.50)
Hero ($24.30)
CO ($25.65)
Button ($11.10)
SB ($15.55)
BB ($35.95)
UTG ($30.20)
UTG+1 ($13.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, Button calls $2.

Turn: ($6.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero?

xxrod17xx 11-04-2007 11:56 PM

Re: NL25 KJ vs half stack
 
I think I would go with a C/F. I dont think you can ever get a solid read on a player that you only have 60 hands with. If you see a player show down a hand where he attempted to rep a flush after floating the flop like this then you have a number of lines you can take. If you don't know what the villan is capable of doing here I think you just have to release. I personally just try and keep the pot as small as possible on the turn and hope for a check behind. If he bets any reasonable amount I fold until I get a better read on whats going on.

Shephard 11-05-2007 05:45 AM

Re: NL25 KJ vs half stack
 
i really don't like a c/f on the turn, given villians stats he can have a lower king or middle pairs or complete air, so i would c/c a bet and b/f on a non A or hearts river

BotOnTilt 11-05-2007 07:21 AM

Re: NL25 KJ vs half stack
 
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i would c/c a bet and b/f on a non A or hearts river

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Pot is $6.35 on flop, and villain has $9 left so not enough money to call turn and b/f river.

I don't see how the turn card would scare him, so if he calls a pot sized bet on the flop I wonder if its a bit unlikely to get him to fold.

I hate these spots and TBH I don't think I have a good line for this, probably check and hope for a cheap show down (which I won't get). I'd probably fold PF though, and much rather raise SCS than gapped big cards.

Bluegrassplayer 11-05-2007 07:23 AM

Re: NL25 KJ vs half stack
 
I'm super lazy, I usually just put him all in so I don't get outplayed. I hate playing short stacks and find that the mentality of players who play short stacks will often fold the winner if you do this so they don't risk stacking off.

Shephard 11-05-2007 08:29 AM

Re: NL25 KJ vs half stack
 
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I hate these spots and TBH I don't think I have a good line for this, probably check and hope for a cheap show down (which I won't get). I'd probably fold PF though, and much rather raise SCS than gapped big cards.

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u are right, i haven't noticed his stack size

BadBigBabar 11-05-2007 12:24 PM

Re: NL25 KJ vs half stack
 
i don't get it

bet the turn

CaptVimes 11-05-2007 01:26 PM

Re: NL25 KJ vs half stack
 
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i don't get it

bet the turn

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I assume your willing to play for shorties stack here?

TheBad 11-05-2007 01:43 PM

Re: NL25 KJ vs half stack
 
If someone can give me a reason not to bet here, i should quit poker as i played it all wrong.

Bet 2/3 on turn, bet 1/3 on river. Fold to raise.

CaptVimes 11-05-2007 05:31 PM

Re: NL25 KJ vs half stack
 
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If someone can give me a reason not to bet here, i should quit poker as i played it all wrong.

Bet 2/3 on turn, bet 1/3 on river. Fold to raise.

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Your going to fold to a raise getting over 4.5 to1? Assuming a $4 bet on the turn.


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