kk hand
 

black kings

5-players, 10/20 6m.

a guy with a big stack, who's new to the table, opens otb, I three-bet in the SB, bb folds and button caps, I call.

9 sb, flop Qd Jd 7s hu

I check, he bets, I call.

Turn is a 2c

I check, he bets, I call.

River is 3s

I check, he bets, I call.

Re: kk hand
 

c/r turn if you have check/called flop and check turn. I would prob c/r flop and bet bet.

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Re: kk hand
 

I like to bet/3bet the turn when I flop a monster, but there are a lot of other lines you can take.

Check/calling the street is one of them, but not one I recommend if you are trying to maximize the number of chips that go into your stack. While you certainly minimized the number of chips to enter villain's stack (and this is often wise out of position), I think you should have considered other goals.

Re: kk hand
 

I think against an unknown a turn c/r is right.

Re: kk hand
 

I keep changing my mind on this, but yeah, I think a turn c/r is better. Make AK, AQ, and maybe TT pay for a river. But if he 3 bets, do we have to fold or are we calling down?

Re: kk hand
 

I like it.

Re: kk hand
 

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I like it.

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Specifically, what do you like better about the calling down? Something in my gut really wants me to believe its better, but I'm sure I wouldnt do it. Probably becuase I suck.

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I like it.

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Specifically, what do you like better about the calling down? Something in my gut really wants me to believe its better, but I'm sure I wouldnt do it. Probably becuase I suck.

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Give villian a range.

Re: kk hand
 

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c/r turn if you have check/called flop and check turn. I would prob c/r flop and bet bet.

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If you c/r the flop and bet the turn, don't you make him fold his AK, TT, 99 on the turn?

I want value from those hands, so I c/c, c/c and bet/call. If he raises the river, sure you loose an extra bet to AA or a set some of the time, but you also get an extra bet from AQ sometimes agianst an unknown.

Original poster: Why check the river?

Re: kk hand
 

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but you also get an extra bet from AQ sometimes


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AQ will not check this river.