Cry call on the river?
 

New join, no reads. Against a 12:1 pots call or fold?

Prima Poker skin
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (11.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero... ?

Re: Cry call on the river?
 

I would probably simply call and take it like a man, I have no idea how you can be good here agiainst any sane villain

Re: Cry call on the river?
 

It is very easy call imo, you can beat 64, 62, 42 and maybe 99 TT or a combo draw like A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], not likely but who knows ?

Maybe calling the turn c/r is better, there is a lot of semi bluf in his range which fire again the river but give up if you 3 bet. A straight is also possible.

Re: Cry call on the river?
 

turn 3bet is spew.

Re: Cry call on the river?
 

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turn 3bet is spew.

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really so bad? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: Cry call on the river?
 

smells like a straight to me

Re: Cry call on the river?
 

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turn 3bet is spew.

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turn 3bet is spew.

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C'mon guys, you know better then to spit out one liners here. It in no way helps OP and more often does more harm than good.

And if posting one liners is bad I won't even address the quoting of one liners problem so as to protect the guilty. Whoever they may be.

Re: Cry call on the river?
 

You are right Carmine!

OP

The turn 3-bet is too much unless you have a read about villain being a very loose and aggressive player.

There is simply too many straight, set and 2 pair combos in an unknowns range.

It also matters than when he has a straight you are drawing dead, whereas when you are ahead he will at least have 5 outs and often as much as 14.

You do realize that whenever you have to call a 3-bet you need 67% eq to raise right?


BTW. On the river you should call. You still beat combo hands like A4dd and two pair hands like 64, 42, 62 and even slowplayed 99-TT. You have simply bloated the pot too big to fold now as there are hands in his range that you beat - even if those hands I quoted are not necessarily played as he did.

BTW, this is another problem with raising the turn. It makes the pot so much bigger that you have to call a lot of rivers.

Re: Cry call on the river?
 

this is such an easy river call here with these odds and an over pair