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sethypooh21 08-03-2007 01:24 PM

Turn Stack-A-donk?
 
Villain is bad, based on LP stats and clueless table talk.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($203)
Button ($90.90)
Hero ($291.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($16) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $13</font>, BB calls $13.

Turn: ($42) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $104</font>, BB calls $68.

River: ($250) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $78</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: $250

4_2_it 08-03-2007 01:31 PM

Re: Turn Stack-A-donk?
 
You left out the stack part. What hand calls $100 on the turn and folds to $150ish?

sethypooh21 08-03-2007 01:33 PM

Re: Turn Stack-A-donk?
 
He had exactly 78 left on the river.

nadical 08-03-2007 02:43 PM

Re: Turn Stack-A-donk?
 
i c\r push turn because people always think that ill have a flush draw and a pair or something cool. Also if he has a fd like it looked here he will probably call the ai

nadical 08-03-2007 02:44 PM

Re: Turn Stack-A-donk?
 
also dont bet what is exactly in his stack people look at this like oh my god he wants all my money has me beat, just push yourself and he will be like no he is bluffing look at that overbet...yea it doesnt really make sense but from playing thats how it seems

inferno 08-03-2007 03:56 PM

Re: Turn Stack-A-donk?
 
I would bet abit more on the flop, the same as you would have hitted it so more like potsizeish

nadical 08-03-2007 03:57 PM

Re: Turn Stack-A-donk?
 
flop pot is completely fine id bet 12-14 there all day

AZK 08-03-2007 04:29 PM

Re: Turn Stack-A-donk?
 
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I would bet abit more on the flop, the same as you would have hitted it so more like potsizeish

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a little too nit picky. this is basically pot

Wolfram 08-03-2007 06:22 PM

Re: Turn Stack-A-donk?
 
Flop bet is std and nothing wrong with the sizing imo.

Given the river fold villain obv. has a flush draw.

You're giving him 2.67:1 on a call. I'd have a really hard time folding the river if a spade hits so I'd figure to stack off. That gives him implied odds of 3.8:1 and he's 1:4.1 to hit.

So it's still a mistake for him to call the turn.

However, the question is if he'll make a bigger mistake by calling a bigger bet. I'd probably just push because that way you give villain the maximum amount of rope to hang himself with, and he'll probably call enough times to make it close to or more EV than making a pot sized reraise.

If he has 2pair or a set he's never folding, and he might even decide to look you up with just top pair and to a donkey, a flush draw is basically the nuts. ("Zomg! If I hit any spade I'll have the best hand!").

Surf 08-03-2007 06:51 PM

Re: Turn Stack-A-donk?
 
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You left out the stack part. What hand calls $100 on the turn and folds to $150ish?

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I concur. If you're going to c/r like this make it bigger, or just go AI.

Surf


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