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Jack_Burton 10-02-2007 01:04 AM

NEWS: Cardrunners are money grubbering PUNKS
 
good job u greedy [censored]. good luck getting any web traffic now when u make people pay to view blogs and articles. lol clock is ticking on your crappy business going busto soons. they are also stealing money by having people sign up and then have no access to the site, then having people who have already been members have no access to the new site. complete [censored] jpke this "comapny" is.

Acaccini 10-02-2007 01:05 AM

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100$ says he is a CR member.

Jack_Burton 10-02-2007 01:07 AM

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100$ says he is a CR member.

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i am, cant log on and haven't gotten an email response in 4 days from these greedy bastards. game over for this crap company, i'm calling my credit card company to reverse the charges

killsadie 10-02-2007 01:08 AM

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what a worthless comapny!!!!!

Xaston 10-02-2007 01:08 AM

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100$ says he is a CR member.

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i am, cant log on and haven't gotten an email response in 4 days from these greedy bastards. game over for this crap company, i'm calling my credit card company to reverse the charges

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Game Over indeed, this should run them straight out of business.

Keyser. 10-02-2007 01:11 AM

Re: NEWS: Cardrunners are money grubbering PUNKS
 
I for one am canceling my membership upon hearing this devastating news.

55555 10-02-2007 01:16 AM

Re: NEWS: Cardrunners are money grubbering PUNKS
 
i am not a member and can still access all blogs

squashington 10-02-2007 01:19 AM

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http://www.charactereducationohio.or.../torchlogo.jpg

steel108 10-02-2007 01:24 AM

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I don't know if this poster was joking, but he has the best response. File a claim with the BBB

SenatorKevin 10-02-2007 01:46 AM

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100$ says he is a CR member.

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i am, cant log on and haven't gotten an email response in 4 days from these greedy bastards. game over for this crap company, i'm calling my credit card company to reverse the charges

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Did you remember to hit 'Send' on that email buddy?

beanie 10-02-2007 01:48 AM

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would it make any difference that what he is saying is 100% not true?

cosimaninja 10-02-2007 01:50 AM

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would it make any difference that what he is saying is 100% not true?

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OF COURSE NOT.............JEEZ THIS IS NVG

Gonso 10-02-2007 01:54 AM

Re: NEWS: Cardrunners are money grubbering PUNKS
 
You know what, a few people have had various problems relating to the changes (myself included), but they have been knocking out the problems. I was one of the cases where I couldn't log on (and I've had a full membership for some time). They fixed things up within a few days for my issue, and I'm sure they'll do the same for all the other issues as well.

I understand it's frustrating, but do you seriously think they're intentionally trying to rob you? It's clear there are problems but this is a pretty vast change to the website, there were bound to be some things going wrong.

If you can't ride it out, then cancel/reverse charges, call the BBB, alert the National Guard or whatever. In a couple of weeks things will be fine with CR, if even that long.

Also, I like that there's not as much traffic and that so much is accessible to members only.

allstaryou 10-02-2007 02:03 AM

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i think it is kind of ridiculous that you have to be a member to view hands in the blogs of people that use the CR hand converter.

what is up with that?

[Phill] 10-02-2007 02:04 AM

Re: NEWS: Cardrunners are money grubbering PUNKS
 
Actually, for a website that is grossing well over a million a year they shouldnt have had any problems at all.

Not hating, just stating.

yi style 10-02-2007 02:17 AM

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astounding announcement op

xaston, that avatar is amazing

Gonso 10-02-2007 02:23 AM

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i think it is kind of ridiculous that you have to be a member to view hands in the blogs of people that use the CR hand converter.

what is up with that?

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CR doesn't have any advertisers like 2+2 or others sites do (at least I don't see any ads). In that case all of the content is supported by the subscriber revenue.

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Actually, for a website that is grossing well over a million a year they shouldnt have had any problems at all.

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A lot of people feel that way. Things in the IT world don't always go as smooth as you like though, regardless of how much money and planning you throw at them. They're obviously troubleshooting the issues they haven't already taken care of.

gregorio 10-02-2007 02:24 AM

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I'm not a member and have no account there, but have no trouble with blogs or HH. Click on "view blog" instead of "username" and you can read the blogs, and when I click on the hands aba posted, I can get them all. Can I have a free membership if I continue to do support?

88jayhawks 10-02-2007 02:25 AM

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Taylor,

can you change the color of the print in the blogs, its hard to see and hard on the eyes. everything looks good though, like the changes. and thanks for responding to my email immediately.lol

RodeoBlue 10-02-2007 02:38 AM

Re: NEWS: Cardrunners are money grubbering PUNKS
 
Blogs are free, I think you're a little disoriented, nearly all members who were experiencing login issues are now able to do everything just fine, if your account hasn't been activated or you've been overcharged email us again. If you can't login or download/stream, clear your cookie/cache and delete your DRM directory (instructions are on the FAQ).

Forum/blogs will have major stylistic changes aswell as some other things in the interface we will be changing. Tay is in Aruba, I think his internet is limited.

DMoogle 10-02-2007 02:44 AM

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i think it is kind of ridiculous that you have to be a member to view hands in the blogs of people that use the CR hand converter.

what is up with that?

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I might be totally wrong, but I think you can just register for free and view the blogs. I'm fairly sure that there are three membership levels: Free (access blogs, buy videos), Silver (full access to everything except videos, but receive 25% discount on videos), and Gold (full access to everything).

RodeoBlue 10-02-2007 02:47 AM

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DMoogle would be 100% right. Don't forget free HH converter.

allstaryou 10-02-2007 03:08 AM

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DMoogle would be 100% right. Don't forget free HH converter.

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ok forget my last post. i apologize, but at the time i wrote it i had clicked the hand history link in BT's blog, and it wouldn't let me view anything.

now the hand is right in his blog. very big improvement IMO.

gj CR

LucidDream 10-02-2007 03:08 AM

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all Rodeo's fault...LDO

allstaryou 10-02-2007 03:09 AM

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CR doesn't have any advertisers like 2+2 or others sites do (at least I don't see any ads). In that case all of the content is supported by the subscriber revenue.



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is that because CR doesn't want anyone advertising? or is it because no one wants to advertise on their site?

i could see reasons for both.

NLfool 10-02-2007 03:21 AM

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that's crazy to say no one want's to advertise to a bunch of people with a lot of disposable income and to the most important demographic that advertisers care about (prob 16-30s). I haven't been to the new site but I'm sure they could at least make a bunch of money as an affiliate + other advertising. I'm sure if girls with blogs can make hundreds of thousand just on advertising CR can do the same and if they aren't they must not like money.

88jayhawks 10-02-2007 04:51 AM

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ban OP, seriously

Daddy Warbucks 10-02-2007 05:06 AM

Re: NEWS: Cardrunners are money grubbering PUNKS
 
"grubbering"?

CaryDarling 10-02-2007 05:08 AM

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CR rigged? why? The amount of money they make from the rake alone...

stigmata 10-02-2007 06:06 AM

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Actually, for a website that is grossing well over a million a year they shouldnt have had any problems at all.

Not hating, just stating.

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i think it's fair to cut them some slack -- they are essentially going through the pains of growth from a "cottage industry" into a medium-sized business. But yes, in the future, I think we can expect better.

ama0330 10-02-2007 07:42 AM

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Had some major problems signing up and lost some money when the new site went live, but now after contacting CR admin my situation is almost 100% rectified. I think that posts like the OP's just reflect on how he's a complete moron, not that CR is somehow trying to steal from people. All new sites have teething problems, seriously get the [censored] over it.

SinkRox 10-02-2007 07:46 AM

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[x] OP is GUSER.

carol-ann 10-02-2007 08:08 AM

Re: NEWS: Cardrunners are money grubbering PUNKS
 
It is a general rule that things in IT go wrong more often than smoothly when putting new non-trivial projects in production.

En Passant 10-02-2007 09:30 AM

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[x] OP is GUSER.

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Yeah, who the hell is that dude on CR? I always see him leaving really mean comments on the blogs ond day, and then really nice comments the next. He must be bi-polar. Also, he posts at least 100 comments a day, wtf???

MilkMan 10-02-2007 09:35 AM

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http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8...bberingmp1.jpg

8outpoker 10-02-2007 09:43 AM

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i had problems when the new site went up and one of their pros took the time to contact me and get the details. within an hr i was live, that goes along way in my book A++++++ service

Acein8ter 10-02-2007 09:55 AM

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Better to buy a book and read it a few times rather than paying a monthly fee to learn poker...

En Passant 10-02-2007 09:56 AM

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Better to buy a book and read it a few times rather than paying a monthly fee to learn poker...

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[x] no

eviljeff 10-02-2007 10:12 AM

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Taylor has already consolidated his power

HiatusOver 10-02-2007 10:15 AM

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The new site is pretty annoying so far...I used to love going to Cardrunners on my blackberry when I was in a cab or something and checking out the new blogs, it was ridiculously easy to navigate on the old site...now I cant do it. They screwed up I think in this spot, free very easily accessible blogs (signing in no longer makes them "easy" as far as the internet is involved) gave the site a ton of extra traffic


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