bizarre hand, i was clueless (still am)
 

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $85.00
BB: $510.85
UTG: $925.00
Hero (CO): $607.15
BTN: $600.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $6.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $27.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $85.00</font>, BB calls $79.00, UTG calls $79.00, Hero calls $58.00

Flop: ($340) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players - 1 All-In)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($340) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players - 1 All-In)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $42.00</font>, Hero calls $42.00, BB folds

River: ($424) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Pot Size: $424.00 ($2.50 Rake)




shorstacker is one of the russians

guy who limped is 33/0 over about 50 hands, bb is 50/20 over 30 hands. So pretty limited reads-wise.

Re: bizarre hand, i was clueless (still am)
 

standard

Re: bizarre hand, i was clueless (still am)
 

Shove preflop. You'll fold out BB or UTG's TT, JJ, maybe even QQ.
Your postflop play is fine.

Re: bizarre hand, i was clueless (still am)
 

i thought about shoving pre caballa, but was worried id be staking myself against a higher pp (which seemed quite likely)

Re: bizarre hand, i was clueless (still am)
 

It's possible, but the fact that they've played their higher pp so passively rather than 4-betting suggests that they'd be weak enough to fold against an all-in.

Re: bizarre hand, i was clueless (still am)
 

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standard

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Re: bizarre hand, i was clueless (still am)
 

My initial thought was to bet that flop. BB's cold call smells of mid PP or big A. I rule out TT so JJ would be the only overpair that notches you. I would have to think QQ-AA repops PF in order to cut down field. UTG is limp calling so his range is much wider. Then I read his stats (small as they maybe) and it just reinforced the monkey image I gave him. I just don't want to give 4 random cards a shot at hitting a J-A or even a 7/8 sinc those are likely pairs that may come in.

I could be off since everyone thinks his postflop play is standard but I'm not so sure it was optimal.

Re: bizarre hand, i was clueless (still am)
 

i certainly considered betting the flop jlocdog for that exact reason, just wasn't sure if people were getting trappy with kings or something [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img], idk, maybe i should have.

Re: bizarre hand, i was clueless (still am)
 

Just to add, this is a good board for your hand AND a bad one for smaller PP's in that they may stack off, and big A's in that they will rarely bluff this board given the PF action and amount of players and inclusion of a side pot. A bet by you shows alot of strength and should thwart any trickiness they may have conjured in their monkey brains.

Re: bizarre hand, i was clueless (still am)
 

i meant they might be trapping, if im raised ill fold (because as you said, they're nearly ever bluffing here), but I'm worried i might be value betting myself.