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Babalatexi 10-15-2007 06:26 PM

NL 10 thoughts on turn and river
 
Villain is 29.5/8.2/0.93 after 120 hands, mostly datamined. His stats are from full ring, the table just happens to have only 6 players at the moment. I called on the button (OMG NO!!!) because I didn't want to raise due to the short stack on my left and I believe I profit with a hand like this even with just calling as it's NL 10. Who raises turn and why? Raise river=standard?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed)

CO ($10.34)
Hero ($9.95)
SB ($3.47)
BB ($9.97)
UTG ($2.50)
MP ($10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.45) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $0.3</font>, Hero calls $0.30, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($1.05) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $0.5</font>, Hero calls $0.50.

River: ($2.05) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $1.2</font>, Hero ?

TheChad 10-15-2007 06:31 PM

Re: NL 10 thoughts on turn and river
 
I srsly dislike raising the turn - his AF is so low and he's betting into you. You're likely to be reraised for a lot without a made hand.
river raise seems std. I go on the bigger end as he probably flopped a pretty strong hand and is 3 barreling.

Milky 10-15-2007 06:32 PM

Re: NL 10 thoughts on turn and river
 
You really should raise pf, regardless of SB being shortstacked.

I think a turn raise is pretty good since with his AF he's probably not 3betting you unless he has the straight, and even then he might not.

Definitely need to raise river, something like $3-$4.

Babalatexi 10-15-2007 06:38 PM

Re: NL 10 thoughts on turn and river
 
River: ($2.05) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $1.2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>,<font color="#CC3333"> CO raises $10.34 (All-In)</font>, Hero has a little more than 5 to call, what to do?

TheChad 10-15-2007 06:41 PM

Re: NL 10 thoughts on turn and river
 
yuck. I flip a coin and probably make the crying call. I have a reload waiting for me though.

Dallas Dru 10-15-2007 06:42 PM

Re: NL 10 thoughts on turn and river
 
call the river... easy call

rwejr 10-15-2007 06:45 PM

Re: NL 10 thoughts on turn and river
 
pray real quick and call ... hope he doesn't have you beat.

TheChad 10-15-2007 06:45 PM

Re: NL 10 thoughts on turn and river
 
this is not an easy call. NFDs are often played like this.

Milky 10-15-2007 06:45 PM

Re: NL 10 thoughts on turn and river
 
[ QUOTE ]
River: ($2.05) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $1.2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>,<font color="#CC3333"> CO raises $10.34 (All-In)</font>, Hero has a little more than 5 to call, what to do?

[/ QUOTE ]

Call. He could have a set/straight/lower flush. If he has higher flush so be it, I'm paying him off.

Babalatexi 10-15-2007 06:46 PM

Re: NL 10 thoughts on turn and river
 
The bad thing is that I don't see how villain can have anything else than the A-high flush or a pretty bad hand here but since the pot odds are good I called getting about 3:1. Dunno if this is a leak.


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