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HEIFER 07-30-2006 12:27 PM

Trying to find a value bet here??
 
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (6 BB) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ?

Final Pot: 6 BB

mute 07-30-2006 12:48 PM

Re: Trying to find a value bet here??
 
Yes. There is not that many better hands, that will check through here, so unless you have a read, that makes you able to check/fold, then betting seems better. Acehigh will sometimes call, and a four or a deuce will call very often.

Surf 07-30-2006 12:54 PM

Re: Trying to find a value bet here??
 
I bet this one.

Surf

ILOVEPOKER929 07-30-2006 12:58 PM

Re: Trying to find a value bet here??
 
A3/A5 may call you and 4x or 2x may call you. I think this is a good thin value bet against most players.

Adam Stewart 08-01-2006 11:46 PM

Re: Trying to find a value bet here??
 
Bet this river.

BB has simply check-called thus far. If he had a king, he would have surely popped the flop or the turn.

If he had the diamond flush draw, he would have surely popped the turn.

Accordingly, you will usually have the best hand here. The only likley holdings that he may have that beat you are pocket pair 77 or bigger (but then again, he prolly would have 3-bet preflop) ... OR .... and King with a weak kicker.


All signs point towards bet.


Adam

MATT111 08-02-2006 08:09 AM

Re: Trying to find a value bet here??
 
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Bet this river.

BB has simply check-called thus far. If he had a king, he would have surely popped the flop or the turn.

If he had the diamond flush draw, he would have surely popped the turn.

Accordingly, you will usually have the best hand here. The only likley holdings that he may have that beat you are pocket pair 77 or bigger (but then again, he prolly would have 3-bet preflop) ... OR .... and King with a weak kicker.


All signs point towards bet.


Adam

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I do not know where all the assumptions come from as OP did not provide any reads.
I am not sure what is the correct play here but I would check the river.

stigmata 08-02-2006 10:27 AM

Re: Trying to find a value bet here??
 
Looks like a clear value bet to me, and it's not even that thin IMHO. Most of the hands that beat you would have announced their presence by now, and you get looked up by Ax, x4, x2 etc. often enough.

MATT111 08-02-2006 10:49 AM

Re: Trying to find a value bet here??
 
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Looks like a clear value bet to me, and it's not even that thin IMHO. Most of the hands that beat you would have announced their presence by now, and you get looked up by Ax, x4, x2 etc. often enough.

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What X4 X2 hands exactly are we talking about? I do not see any we beat except for A4 and A2 (maybe a couple more suited hands). And I don`t think a K necesserilly raises this somewhere. I tend to agree this is a bet but I do think it is close without a read.

stigmata 08-02-2006 10:51 AM

Re: Trying to find a value bet here??
 
He's in the BB so just about any 2 suited cards can constitute x4 and x2 for most players.

Adam Stewart 08-02-2006 01:09 PM

Re: Trying to find a value bet here??
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Bet this river.

BB has simply check-called thus far. If he had a king, he would have surely popped the flop or the turn.

If he had the diamond flush draw, he would have surely popped the turn.

Accordingly, you will usually have the best hand here. The only likley holdings that he may have that beat you are pocket pair 77 or bigger (but then again, he prolly would have 3-bet preflop) ... OR .... and King with a weak kicker.


All signs point towards bet.


Adam

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I do not know where all the assumptions come from as OP did not provide any reads.
I am not sure what is the correct play here but I would check the river.

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Reads are not necessary for my above "assumptions." The majority of the time, they will be bang on.


Adam


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