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chrismystero 11-04-2007 03:23 AM

so lost with Queens....
 
$5NL

villain has been sitting out for a long time and just sat back in (posting a SB & BB) so i have yet to play a hand with him.

comments preflop apreciated, but especially on the flop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($9.31)
Button ($9.63)
SB ($10.68)
BB ($1.92)
UTG ($7.30)
UTG+1 ($19.08)
MP1 ($5.36)
MP2 ($1.93)
Hero ($27.41)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.07.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.05, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO (poster) raises to $1.8</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($3.74) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $3.5</font>, Hero ??

Hklm8383 11-04-2007 03:30 AM

Re: so lost with Queens....
 
fold or shove

chrismystero 11-04-2007 03:30 AM

Re: so lost with Queens....
 
I'm actually going to attempt to answer my own question on this one cuz I just got thinkin a bit more. Would it have been better if I lead this Flop for like $3.25- with the intention of calling a shove? My line might let AK bluff me too much here, and also for all I know it could 99-JJ value pushing...

jlp_2908 11-04-2007 03:45 AM

Re: so lost with Queens....
 
I think check-shove here is better then leading that flop, only his AA-KK maybe 10-10 and JJ will call all of his other hands would fold. Hard to put him on a range tho without reads.
3betters make lots of money with their cbets, causing QQs etc, the better hands, to fold.

Either way, you have to shove...Why else would you call pre-flop? What kind of flop did you want? You werent getting great odds for a set. If you put him on KK+ shoulda folded pre

diebitter 11-04-2007 03:47 AM

Re: so lost with Queens....
 
I prefer betting out 2/3 pot to an unknown here. That board is way too drawy to let them peel one for free. Shove as played.

CallCallCall 11-04-2007 10:03 AM

Re: so lost with Queens....
 
I would fold preflop with no reads.

Since not playing for a set with your call. Ideal flop, I would ch/r allin.

iponnet 11-04-2007 10:25 AM

Re: so lost with Queens....
 
shove

chip-star 11-04-2007 11:10 AM

Re: so lost with Queens....
 
I would fold preflop too against someone i had no info on, $5nl players rarely 3bet preflop like this without aces or kings from my experiance.

Pm me villians name and i'll give you some stats on him if i have any. (from 100k hands)


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