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1outer 11-15-2007 03:39 PM

$100 HU SNG - Flopped Qhi Flush - Can i get away from AI on turn?
 
I recently cashed out my whole roll off FTP (10k) due to bills and just me having a gambling problem lol. I got the itch again tho and deposited $500 yesterday. Realized i dont play as well in lower stakes when it doesn't mean as much, so i took a shot on $100 HU sng.

No hand histories becuz it's on another computer, but i remember the action.

Villain is super super nitty, we have played small pots and are about even, he seems to be playing his cards mostly.

Hero: 1470 chips
Villain: 1530 chips

I am dealt Qd4d on button, i limp for 60 and BB checks his option.
FLOP: 9d 10d Jd
BB checks
I bet 60, BB calls
TURN: 7h
BB bets 160
I raise to 500
BB tanks and re-raises all in for 910 more.

OK, i have seen him limp ace-rag twice and he is one of the nittiest players i have faced at this level of SNG, but he is winner over 6,000 SNGs so i give him some respect. I figure the only thing he can be representing here is smaller or higher flopped flush and also set of 9s. 9's is the biggest pair he will limp, other than that he would have raised PF. Another possibility would be Ad9x, Ad10x, AdJx (i find these unlikely he would check PF). So realistically i have him pegged to set of 9's or better or worse flush. I realllly think he would only make this move with a better flush than me, but even if he flips up A high flush, I still have outs with open ended straight flush?

Can i get away from this hand?
this is huge win or loss for my bank roll.

jay_shark 11-15-2007 03:47 PM

Re: $100 HU SNG - Flopped Qhi Flush - Can i get away from AI on turn?
 
Call for sure .

There is so much dead money in the pot that you would have to have the sickest read to fold this hand .

ChicagoRy 11-15-2007 03:51 PM

Re: $100 HU SNG - Flopped Qhi Flush - Can i get away from AI on turn?
 
That's the problem with playing on 5 buyin rolls... your decision making ability is clouded.

I call here all day.

1outer 11-15-2007 04:09 PM

Re: $100 HU SNG - Flopped Qhi Flush - Can i get away from AI on turn?
 
here's an add on to the topic... if you were to be able to see villains hand face up and he flipped up Adxd (not the 8 or K of diamonds tho, straight flush draw outs) Would you still call? Are 2 outs in the deck enough to justify a call with the amount of money in the pot? You'd hafta fold in that spot right?

emKay 11-15-2007 04:16 PM

Re: $100 HU SNG - Flopped Qhi Flush - Can i get away from AI on turn?
 
Don't even think about folding this. And no, you cannot call with your 2 outer because you have sth like 4-5% equity. Stove it and you'll see.

MxGucci 11-15-2007 05:38 PM

Re: $100 HU SNG - Flopped Qhi Flush - Can i get away from AI on turn?
 
You have to call man. If he has you beat, thats unlucky. If your thinking of folding this, quit poker man. Try to play with a better bankroll so you are not too nervous.

1outer 11-15-2007 05:42 PM

Re: $100 HU SNG - Flopped Qhi Flush - Can i get away from AI on turn?
 
i agree with everything, hellmuth wouldn't fold that hand.

if i had 2d3d would this change anything? are u saying that if i flop a flush there just is not getting away from this at all? in live poker, I have definitely folded small flushes in these spots b4, not heads up, but just spots that dont make sense to fold and villain flashes higher flush.

BCM11 11-15-2007 05:45 PM

Re: $100 HU SNG - Flopped Qhi Flush - Can i get away from AI on turn?
 
It's such an insta-call.. you want to get your money in here. The guy probably has the straight or something but if your posting it cuz he flopped a bigger flush don't be results oriented. You felt there everytime for 75 bbs.

TNixon 11-15-2007 05:47 PM

Re: $100 HU SNG - Flopped Qhi Flush - Can i get away from AI on turn?
 
Q high is not a "small flush" though. There are only two flushes that beat you, and you have one end of the possible straight flush.

And frankly, if you're folding small flushes often in spots where you're not multiple buyins deep, you're probably folding bad anyway, unless you're 100% positive that the person actually has a higher flush.

1outer 11-15-2007 05:49 PM

Re: $100 HU SNG - Flopped Qhi Flush - Can i get away from AI on turn?
 
i have never folded a smaller flush online. ever. I have only done it a few times with a live read, where the guy almost jumped out of his seat when 3rd suited card hit. Thanks for all the input.


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