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bobbyi 04-13-2007 01:11 PM

2/4 Flopped Flush OOP in Unraised Multiway Pot
 
Primary villain is a standard multi-tabling type, seems neither particularly laggy nor particularly rocky.

Button ($184)
SB ($797.80)
Hero ($394.20)
UTG ($190.40)
MP ($435)
CO ($400)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $4, MP calls $4, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $56</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, CO calls $56, SB folds.

Turn: ($144) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $144</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $312</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $334.2 (All-In)</font>, CO calls $22.20.

River: ($812.40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
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Final Pot: $812.40

kylephilly 04-13-2007 01:22 PM

Re: 2/4 Flopped Flush OOP in Unraised Multiway Pot
 
So he had a higher flush?

Otherwise there isn't much to discuss? 9 10?

ipokeder 04-13-2007 01:25 PM

Re: 2/4 Flopped Flush OOP in Unraised Multiway Pot
 
don't pot turn, fold to turn raise

it's very obvious here that you're beat. you basically only beat 79

nextgenneo 04-13-2007 01:26 PM

Re: 2/4 Flopped Flush OOP in Unraised Multiway Pot
 
with your turn bet sizing looks good to me. the turn bet looks like "I've got top pair, dont outdraw me!" so I think you will get him to shove it in with sets / 2pairs. easy call. nice line

if he had higher flush i dont give a [censored], go to bbv

JKratzer 04-13-2007 01:32 PM

Re: 2/4 Flopped Flush OOP in Unraised Multiway Pot
 
if he's a decent regular i think the flop coldcall should make you wary. at that point i narrow his range to sets/flushes and there just aren't many lower flushes he can have. bet/fold or check and see what he does are both options. i'd bet usually.

MYNAMEIZGREG 04-13-2007 01:44 PM

Re: 2/4 Flopped Flush OOP in Unraised Multiway Pot
 
I generally hate using stats but what is his pfr%. The lower it the better the chance you are beat.

bobbyi 04-13-2007 01:48 PM

Re: 2/4 Flopped Flush OOP in Unraised Multiway Pot
 
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I generally hate using stats but what is his pfr%. The lower it the better the chance you are beat.

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How low does it need to be for the turn to be a fold?

TheWorstPlayer 04-13-2007 02:09 PM

Re: 2/4 Flopped Flush OOP in Unraised Multiway Pot
 
what's the question? give yourself 65dd and then there's a question. t high is the nizzles.

True 04-13-2007 02:11 PM

Re: 2/4 Flopped Flush OOP in Unraised Multiway Pot
 
[ QUOTE ]
don't pot turn, fold to turn raise

it's very obvious here that you're beat. you basically only beat 79

[/ QUOTE ]

RiverHebrew2 04-13-2007 03:00 PM

Re: 2/4 Flopped Flush OOP in Unraised Multiway Pot
 
Looks like he probably flopped nut flush, I think you can find a fold on turn. Set doesn't play this way and neither does straight, and lower flush probably calls down ina limped pot. Looks like you're up against better flush... don't go broke with smallish flush in limped pots like this, though they r VERy tough to get away from; however his turn LARGe raise indicates that you beat nothing IMO.

normaljoe 04-13-2007 03:53 PM

Re: 2/4 Flopped Flush OOP in Unraised Multiway Pot
 
Ad,Kx through Ad,Jx from the CO and no raise..? AdAx no raise against the SB and UTG especialy?

Hyper agressive with pkt 44's maybe 88's in his "I still fill 1 and 3ish times" mode.?. He would raise JJ PF right?

9d,10x flops open with a diamond redraw turns a str8 and gets stuck..

lots of things would be going through my head especially if he's "neither this nor that," and not capable of slow playing the nuts which would difinately be in the front of my mind...

I also would be in the "how the hell do I keep this pot small" mode while I'm still in control and in position.

what room anyway?

duh 04-13-2007 04:01 PM

Re: 2/4 Flopped Flush OOP in Unraised Multiway Pot
 
I think if you are betting the turn, it should be because you are planning on folding to a raise. ( or check/folding riv )


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