200NL- Another one of those \"KK and [censored] A flops hands\"
 

Villain is 35/15 with a river aggr factor of 2.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $204.00
BB: $102.55
UTG: $179.00
Hero (BTN): $197.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26.00</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $18.00

Flop: ($55) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($55) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $20.00</font>, Hero calls $20.00

River: ($95) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $40.00</font>, Hero?

Re: 200NL- Another one of those \"KK and [censored] A flops hands\"
 

i think odds are good enough to make this call

Re: 200NL- Another one of those \"KK and [censored] A flops hands\"
 

raise the turn for a free showdown.

Re: 200NL- Another one of those \"KK and [censored] A flops hands\"
 

I disagree with raise the turn for a "free" showdown... Villain bets $20 on the turn, standard raise would be to $60 (costing you $40... the same amount the villain bets on the river)...

Also, if the villain is bluffing, then he will fold rather than induce the extra bluff. If he really does have a good hand and shoves you miss your chance to hit a 2 outer.

Also for the record, I would fold your cowboys, I think you're beat unless you have evidence of this guy multi barreling.

Re: 200NL- Another one of those \"KK and [censored] A flops hands\"
 

Snap-call.

Re: 200NL- Another one of those \"KK and [censored] A flops hands\"
 

[ QUOTE ]
I disagree with raise the turn for a "free" showdown... Villain bets $20 on the turn, standard raise would be to $60 (costing you $40... the same amount the villain bets on the river)...

Also, if the villain is bluffing, then he will fold rather than induce the extra bluff. If he really does have a good hand and shoves you miss your chance to hit a 2 outer.

Also for the record, I would fold your cowboys, I think you're beat unless you have evidence of this guy multi barreling.

[/ QUOTE ]
Not saying I agree in raising the turn, but your logic doesnt hold up, since a "standard" bet on the river is not 40$. What if he bets 65$?(Which is more probable) Then raising the turn will yield profit, since 60$&lt;(20+65).

I probably play it the same though, since he's giving me good odds on turn and river(and calling river obv).

Re: 200NL- Another one of those \"KK and [censored] A flops hands\"
 

why not bet the flop?? If he checks I will only call another small river bet.

as played I call river but it sucks

Re: 200NL- Another one of those \"KK and [censored] A flops hands\"
 

doesn't this scream ace low kicker or flush draw that hit-- looks like value town, we're not beating much of anything on the river-- i know we are getting odds but i don't understand a call-- i would a ) either raise the turn for a free showdown as he may not have trip aces or b ) fold turn

Re: 200NL- Another one of those \"KK and [censored] A flops hands\"
 

show it down.

Re: 200NL- Another one of those \"KK and [censored] A flops hands\"
 

[ QUOTE ]
i think odds are good enough to make this call

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't know. Do you really think villain is on a stone bluff 1/3 of the time?