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recallme 08-16-2007 08:16 PM

How should we play AK preflop?
 
Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
hero: $2554
UTG+1: $1950
CO: $2714
Button: $2477
SB: $2137
BB: $1562.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $70</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $240</font>. , rest folds

This should be just an example of the scenario i am talking about.

Our Villain is a good regular running like 22/17/3.5

His range is (99)/TT+/(AJ)/AQ+ (and some hands to mix it up from him like 76s). I hope this sin`t way off.

Now we have 4 options, from which i dislike only one.

1. Call: bad, we don`t get information and must continue OOP

2. Fold: It doesn`t fit into my aggro style

3. 4bet shove: We fold out all hands, but (JJ)/QQ+ and sometimes even the Q`s. Problem is we are way behind if called

4. 4bet to 700: I like this options most atm, because it lets us get away if Villain has KK+. Problem is we get sometimes pushed by an other Ak or QQ


I would like to know which strategy has the most EV. Perhaps someone has some numbers on it.

How does your action change if it`s CO vs BU?

How does your action change if you are in position?

FlyingStart 08-16-2007 08:18 PM

Re: How should we play AK preflop?
 
You show some serious lack of understanding in this post

Are you really a 10/20 winner, or just a 10/20 crypto winner?

edit: not to be a total [censored], 4-betting and folding to a shove is just beyond bad for example

Borned_Luckbox1 08-16-2007 08:21 PM

Re: How should we play AK preflop?
 
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"4. 4bet to 700: I like this options most atm, because it lets us get away if Villain has KK+. Problem is we get sometimes pushed by an other Ak or QQ"


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lol, we are snappcalling

Unknown Soldier 08-16-2007 08:21 PM

Re: How should we play AK preflop?
 
a new player made a v good post about this situation in ssnl a few days back. I'm too lazy to search for it though

tcorbin16 08-16-2007 08:49 PM

Re: How should we play AK preflop?
 
YOU MUST LIMP AK PF TO CONCEAL HAND STRENGTH!!!!

raze 08-16-2007 10:08 PM

Re: How should we play AK preflop?
 
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His range is (99)/TT+/(AJ)/AQ+ (and some hands to mix it up from him like 76s). I hope this sin`t way off.


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Folding is far too weak, calling is ok but tricky. I think a shove has positive value against that range. It might be simplistic but if you're not totally comfortable always calling and playing a flop (like me), shove it and get at least a bit of value.

Esuom 08-16-2007 10:18 PM

Re: How should we play AK preflop?
 
just always pump it against the regs and adjust the rest of ur game around it

KRANTZ 08-16-2007 10:24 PM

Re: How should we play AK preflop?
 
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YOU MUST LIMP AK PF TO CONCEAL HAND STRENGTH!!!!

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jetsetboy 08-16-2007 11:14 PM

Re: How should we play AK preflop?
 
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YOU MUST LIMP AK PF TO CONCEAL HAND STRENGTH!!!!

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If raised you 3b right ?

Psydoc 08-17-2007 12:00 AM

Re: How should we play AK preflop?
 
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YOU MUST LIMP AK PF TO CONCEAL HAND STRENGTH!!!!

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If raised you 3b right ?

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How would 3-betting after we limp help conceal our hand strength? Limp call obv.


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