Standard Hypothetical Situation.
 

Villain is bad. Assume he is a standard fish, bit of a calling station, can't handread for [censored]. Will never fold a draw for even pot sized bets - all that good stuff.

Whats the best turn/river combination?

6max. 5/10.
Hero is dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button.

Folds to hero who makes it 35. Fish calls in the BB with ??

Flop comes Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (Pot is 80)
Fish checks, Hero bets 65. Fish calls.

Turn is the J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (Pot is 210)
Fish checks, Hero ???

My question is the following: Which turn/river combo is better AND WHY.

A) Check turn, call a bet on a blank river.
2) Bet turn, check behind on any river.
iii) Something else??

Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
 

2 is obviously better

Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
 

lol love the A/2/iii format

anyway I think it is very close between A and 2

A is good for pot control, and he will bluff missed clubs occasionally so there is a decent chance of getting value there

2 protects your hand, and gets value from draws and other random thing he calls with cuz hes a fish

I really dont think either option is bad but I would go w/ 2

Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
 

2 is definitely better unless he bluffs with a very big frequency in 1.

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2) Bet turn, check behind on most rivers.


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Seriously? My standard is A. (We bet when checked to on the river obviously).

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2) Bet turn, check behind on most rivers.


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King of the Nits

Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
 

he is never folding a club draw on the turn, maybe never even folding a 7 or any pocket pair. and fish typically call too much and dont bluff that much. so not betting this turn sucks.

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Seriously? My standard is A. (We bet when checked to on the river obviously).

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but WHY do you take this line?!?!

Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
 

Yeah I'm not so concerned about inducing bluffs as I am maxing from worse pairs, which I think call way more often on the river. Even against guys so-described I'll often fire with A hi here since you get so many folds.

Mmm I guess that counts as charging a flush draw though.