25/50 Stars Hand
 

Villian is Grandiose. He know's I'm aggressive and plays a semi-unorthodox style. comments on all all streets welcome.

PokerStars Game #7314847524: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/12/05 - 18:16:25 (ET)
Table 'Caelium III' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: $tinger 88 ($8658 in chips)
Seat 2: adsanman12 ($5178 in chips)
Seat 3: blitto009 ($1925 in chips)
Seat 4: NotThiSTiMe ($5135.15 in chips)
Seat 5: WhinnePie ($8419 in chips)
Seat 6: Grandiose ($7456 in chips)
Seat 7: GreenPlastic ($7513 in chips)
Seat 9: sparx1 ($5000 in chips)
NotThiSTiMe: posts small blind $25
WhinnePie: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GreenPlastic [7h 7c]
Grandiose: calls $50
GreenPlastic: raises $150 to $200
sparx1: folds
$tinger 88: folds
adsanman12: folds
blitto009: folds
NotThiSTiMe: folds
WhinnePie: folds
Grandiose: calls $150
*** FLOP *** [8d 9s Ad]
Grandiose: checks
GreenPlastic: bets $250
Grandiose: calls $250
*** TURN *** [8d 9s Ad] [7s]
Grandiose: checks
GreenPlastic: bets $750
Grandiose: calls $750
*** RIVER *** [8d 9s Ad 7s] [4s]
Grandiose: checks
pandabear22 joins the table at seat #8
GreenPlastic: bets $1950
Grandiose: raises $4306 to $6256 and is all-in

Re: 25/50 Stars Hand
 

I think this is a fold. He probably has Ax ss or like J10ss.

Re: 25/50 Stars Hand
 

What range can he put you on after the turn and river bets? With the straight draw coming in and the bd flush he can't really expect you to be weak at all here, can he?

It looks like the only semi-realistic thing you beat is diamonds, maybe Td9d or something, and even if he thinks you'll fold a set you'll have JT too often for a c/r push bluff to be worth it. I think this has to be a fold.

Re: 25/50 Stars Hand
 

First thing I noticed is that he's trying to represent runner runner flush. Since the ace of spade is not out there, it's more likely that he has some type of Axs hands. Does he regularly limp UTG with Axs? What about 10Js?

I *might* call (when I'm stuck and am trying to reason myself into it) but looking at this board, I think Hero is toasted.

Re: 25/50 Stars Hand
 

fold the river, all streets are good. he should be just as fearful you have a flush. maybe 1/50 times he does this with the bare As but this is NL not PLO

Re: 25/50 Stars Hand
 

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fold the river, all streets are good. he should be just as fearful you have a flush. maybe 1/50 times he does this with the bare As but this is NL not PLO

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not that it matters, but its almost impossible for him to get to the river after limping utg with just the bare As

Re: 25/50 Stars Hand
 

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fold the river, all streets are good. he should be just as fearful you have a flush. maybe 1/50 times he does this with the bare As but this is NL not PLO

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not that it matters, but its almost impossible for him to get to the river after limping utg with just the bare As

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i duno who he is, so many [censored] donkeys in this game who limp offsuit aces. if he's not a donkey, yah true

Re: 25/50 Stars Hand
 

As8s???

i cant imagine you've got him beat here, and personally i dont like the riv. bet.

if he calls down lite then it seems okay, but given this action i'm going to assign him a draw of some sort, and especially since you've got a two tone board on the turn.

i just cant see him calling your river bet with a weaker hand, and you're always getting raised when he gets there, right?

i'd fold the river w/o a lot of history on him.

also, i like your turn bet. but obv. he's calling with a strong draw here most of the time or a made hand, right?

Re: 25/50 Stars Hand
 

gp,

i don't understand the question. if you should believe him or not? it's pretty clear that he isn't valuepushing worse.

Re: 25/50 Stars Hand
 

after looking at this again, this looks like a good spot to bluff a river with any two cards, esp. the As.