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I like what Rekwob said!

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Also if you're really the hijack I think raise/calling here is ridiculous spew. Do you really think someone is shoving over Adam here super light when he opens for 3x with 16 bb's? No one does that anymore.

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Also if you're really the hijack I think raise/calling here is ridiculous spew. Do you really think someone is shoving over Adam here super light when he opens for 3x with 16 bb's? No one does that anymore.

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in a $50 this may well be true. in a $200 I see worse hands allllllll day

edit: what, SB/BB aren't "value shoving" A7s here or something?

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if we raise our hand is not 27. this is true for a number of reasons, one of which is fairly obvious imo. what if we get flatted by one of the random blinds? clearly our hand is not equal to 27 in this instance.

i'm also w/ adanthar and rekwob...random people shove random [censored] in the blinds here all the time.

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if we raise our hand is not 27.

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O MAN welcome to my side of the argument, remember when it took me literally 5 hours to explain this to you in a smilarish situation?

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I figure we get flatted very rarely here,

but as always LuckyChewy is right [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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if we raise our hand is not 27. this is true for a number of reasons, one of which is fairly obvious imo. what if we get flatted by one of the random blinds? clearly our hand is not equal to 27 in this instance.

i'm also w/ adanthar and rekwob...random people shove random [censored] in the blinds here all the time.

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Yeah I agree with all this.

And it also all depends on if you're known as well (I'm assuming you are) which even further dictates the above.

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if we raise our hand is not 27. this is true for a number of reasons, one of which is fairly obvious imo. what if we get flatted by one of the random blinds? clearly our hand is not equal to 27 in this instance.

i'm also w/ adanthar and rekwob...random people shove random [censored] in the blinds here all the time.

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Yeah I agree with all this.

And it also all depends on if you're known as well (I'm assuming you are) which even further dictates the above.

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I'm likely an unknown to anybody but Stealthmunk, who upon joining our lovely table immed started rooting for me to go busto when I got my stack in vs someone [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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if we raise our hand is not 27.

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O MAN welcome to my side of the argument, remember when it took me literally 5 hours to explain this to you in a smilarish situation?

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ehh i think there are instances in theory where this is the case.

but yeah i used to be dumb(still am actually) and i concede. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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if we raise our hand is not 27. this is true for a number of reasons, one of which is fairly obvious imo. what if we get flatted by one of the random blinds? clearly our hand is not equal to 27 in this instance.

i'm also w/ adanthar and rekwob...random people shove random [censored] in the blinds here all the time.

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chewy ur right that if we get flatted our hand has postflop value but in this spot were almost never being flatted esp in a tournament with a good field like the 50 rebuy, for the most part people are generally not flatting when the effective stack is 15 blinds or so. Also a lot of good players, like intervention perhaps, that most people that are good and raising ~ 15 big blind stacks arent folding to a shove when they open raise since its "the perfect resteal stack."