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Fiasco 12-17-2006 05:00 AM

TD pat 78 very multiway - do I break?
 
I think I remember
something from SS2 about sometimes breaking a pat 8 to draw one to a wheel when there are a lot of people in. Am I misremembering this? If not, I should have broke here right?
(this actually seems kind of counter-intuitive since all the low cards should be in people's hands). Also, does anyone bet the last round here?

Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($2/$4) (converter)

SB ($196), Seat 4
BB ($151), Seat 5
UTG ($105), Seat 6
Hero ($67.50), Seat 1
CO ($77), Seat 2
Button ($39), Seat 3

Button at Seat 3.
SB posts $1. BB posts $2.

Hand: [5s 7d 4s 8d 2h]

Round 1: (1.50 SB)

<font color="green">UTG calls. </font><font color="red">Hero raises. </font><font color="green">CO calls. </font><font color="green">Button calls. </font><font color="green">SB calls. </font><font color="green">BB calls. </font><font color="green">UTG calls. </font>
SB takes 2. BB takes 4. UTG takes 2. Hero stands pat. CO takes 2. Button takes 3.

Hand: [5s 7d 4s 8d 2h]

Round 2: (12.00 SB)

<font color="green">SB checks. </font><font color="green">BB checks. </font><font color="green">UTG checks. </font><font color="red">Hero bets. </font><font color="green">CO calls. </font><font color="#666666">Button folds. </font><font color="green">SB calls. </font><font color="#666666">BB folds. </font><font color="green">UTG calls. </font>
SB takes 1. UTG takes 2. Hero stands pat. CO takes 2.

Hand: [5s 7d 4s 8d 2h]

Round 3: (8.00 BB)

<font color="green">SB checks. </font><font color="green">UTG checks. </font><font color="red">Hero bets. </font><font color="green">CO calls. </font><font color="green">SB calls. </font><font color="green">UTG calls. </font>
SB takes 1. UTG takes 1. Hero stands pat. CO takes 1.

Hand: [5s 7d 4s 8d 2h]

Round 4: (12.00 BB)

<font color="green">SB checks. </font><font color="green">UTG checks. </font><font color="green">Hero checks. </font><font color="green">CO checks. </font>

Total pot: (12.00 BB - $48)

Results: (in white)

<font color="white">Total pot $48 | Rake $2

Hero had [5s 7d 4s 8d 2h] and won ($46) with Lo: 8,7,5,4,2
CO had [2s Qc 7c 6h 5d]
SB had [9s 2c 3d 7h 6d] and lost with Lo: 9,7,6,3,2
UTG had [4c 5c 8c 3s Ts]
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2461Badugi 12-17-2006 09:32 AM

Re: TD pat 78 very multiway - do I break?
 
When you have a hand like 87542, the difference between four and six people in the pot in terms of your hand getting run down is negligible, since anyone without a deuce needs specifically #9 to win. However, those extra two players make a huge difference in your odds to improve if you break, because they almost certainly hold threes.

This is somewhat of a more complicated way of saying that the deck is poor and you should stand pat.

Whether to bet the river depends on what you think they would pay off with. Because of the poorness of the deck it's unlikely that anyone with a seven draw will catch an eight and pay off, which is the usual reason to bet good 87s. But the pot is pretty large and a nine or worse might pay off, expecially if you're new to the table and haven't shown down a hand that shows you know what game you're playing yet.

DeathDonkey 12-17-2006 10:19 AM

Re: TD pat 78 very multiway - do I break?
 
Good post 2461badugi, one reason to bet the river is when a guy pat all the way keeps betting someone always thinks he's snowing and the pot is big and blah blah. I've been called by a rivered King in spots like this. Easy river bet.

-DeathDonkey

HOWMANY 12-17-2006 04:11 PM

Re: TD pat 78 very multiway - do I break?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Easy river bet.


[/ QUOTE ]

The rest of the hand is fine.


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