(NL25) Monster OOP multiway
 

Villains are pretty much unknowns, I have played one orbit and they haven't done anything out of line, except for the min-bet PF.

I called PF since I end the action and I think I can get some value if I hit hard.

I bet the scary flop to see where I am, was a bit surprised to see them both calling.

On the river I figured any J would call my push, and if I have severely overestimated villains they could call with garbage - but on second though I don't like the river push at all.

Again all comments are welcome, and I'm especially interested in hearing what you'd do on the river.

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$57.60</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$15.45</font>)
MP1 (<font color="#0000cc">$4.65</font>)
MP2 (<font color="#0000cc">$37.20</font>)
MP3 (<font color="#0000cc">$9.75</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$37.00</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$14.00</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$3.75</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$25.00</font>)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is BB 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#777777">5 folds</font>, BTN calls $0.5, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.6, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1</font>, UTG calls $1, BTN calls $1

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.6, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, UTG calls $3, BTN calls $3

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($13.6, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero goes all-in $20.5

Re: (NL25) Monster OOP multiway
 

I'd bet pot on turn and river, with the 2nd 8 on the river a boat is that obvious that even a A high flush draw can't call your shove here, so your hoping basically to get called by the case J.
BTW: hope nobody turned around QcTc...

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I'd bet pot on turn and river, with the 2nd 8 on the river a boat is that obvious that even a A high flush draw can't call your shove here, so your hoping basically to get called by the case J.
BTW: hope nobody turned around QcTc...

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+1 to everything here

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Any other card than the 8 and I like the line, but since it was the 8, I just valuetown and hope he calls

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I like it. If villains are drawing, they arent paying off anyway. If one has a J, they are definitely stacking off to you. Its 25NL, so you may even get a donk with an 8. Profit maximized.

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I'd bet pot on turn and river, with the 2nd 8 on the river a boat is that obvious that even a A high flush draw can't call your shove here, so your hoping basically to get called by the case J.
BTW: hope nobody turned around QcTc...

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Also bet more flop.

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I'd bet pot on turn and river

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I bet out weak, as I bet a bit small on flop and hoped that someone would raise me.. I guess it wasn't too bright.

As played the button only had a potsized bet left on the river, but maybe UTG would have called slightly less... I guess I had the deck crippled though. Also thought that if I bet smaller then junk could call, while I figured any Jack would raise as they have no kicker problems and since I was an unknown they might think I can play worse hands like that - especially since they figure they'd split if I have the jack.
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BTW: hope nobody turned around QcTc...

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Fortunately no. They both instafolded.

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Also bet more flop.

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Potsized, or overbet? I just hate to commit on a monotone &amp; straight flop OOP in case I don't improve on turn.

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Potsized, or overbet? I just hate to commit on a monotone &amp; straight flop OOP in case I don't improve on turn.

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Pot size.

For example, bet 1.5$ flop - protect your hand, make their drawing expensive. If they both call the pot on the turn is 6.1$. Then make psb. If they call, then easy shove on the river.

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Anyone like checking the flop to PF raiser, then CR turn hoping at least one of the villains will pay to see a river [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?

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Pot size.

For example, bet 1.5$ flop - protect your hand, make their drawing expensive. If they both call the pot on the turn is 6.1$. Then make psb. If they call, then easy shove on the river.

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What if turn blanks? The pot will be $6 and button has $12 left and I have no idea what they have? If I bet pot ($6) UTG calls and button pushes, do I stack off? I mean that board is more than a bit scary for two pairs... Or am I seeing monsters?