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PrimordialAA 11-28-2007 02:10 PM

TT, spewy call pre? 50NL
 
do I fold pre-flop? And on review this bet looks very very veryyyyyyy strong on the flop, so was it an easy fold there?



Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($49.25)
MP ($27.90)
Hero ($89.95)
Button ($63.55)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($50.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, Button calls $1.75, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $8.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $6.75, Button folds.

Flop: ($19.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $19.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $81.45 (All-In)</font>, SB calls $21.75 (All-In).

Turn: ($101.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($101.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $101.50

alexDJI 11-28-2007 02:55 PM

Re: TT, spewy call pre? 50NL
 
PF, what range do you put him on? Assuming you would have to hit a set to win, fold pre.

Froobert 11-28-2007 02:56 PM

Re: TT, spewy call pre? 50NL
 
I think you should fold this preflop, his raise is huge and your TT doesn't hold up to well against his 3-bet range. You don't have set odds and the villain is often making this big raise to protect his premium pair.

After the villain makes the huge flop bet I would also fold. I can't see him doing that without a pocket pair above tens, or AK with the ace or king of hearts. You're not in good shape against JJ+ and its a 50-50 against AK with one heart.

If you did manage to win the hand against AK no heart or some random bluff then you've gotten pretty lucky, as most of his range crushes you.

PrimordialAA 11-28-2007 03:00 PM

Re: TT, spewy call pre? 50NL
 
no, he had KK no heart and I didnt connect, he played his hand exactly I guess as it looked, and by the looks of it I should have laid it down pre and forgot about it

VaxHam 11-28-2007 03:04 PM

Re: TT, spewy call pre? 50NL
 
I would fold PF too. Most of the time you´re up against a huge pair and his stack is too small for profitably calling for setvalue. He maybe has AKs or AK/AQ depending on how his stats are, but most of the time I would say you´re up against JJ+..


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