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PBJaxx 01-02-2007 02:53 AM

NL200 - Oh wait...Is that a stack-a-donk?
 
Villain is a decent multitabling TAG. He is 20/13/3.5 over a few thousand hands. He has been 3betting me more than normal at this table, but I think he generally stays out of my way.

Preflop is meh, I vary between calling, folding, and 4betting here. I am not sure if checking or betting this turn is best. As played, do I have to call here for that price? I really only beat TT, and I don't have any reason to think he would do this with missed overs. Comments on all streets appreciated.


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $267.60
UTG+1: $372.35
CO: $811.35
Hero: $228.85
SB: $207
BB: $36

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $26</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($54, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $41</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($136, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $76</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $140</font>, Hero?

Jigsaws 01-02-2007 02:57 AM

Re: NL200 - Oh wait...Is that a stack-a-donk?
 
Check turn yo!

carnivalhobo 01-02-2007 02:57 AM

Re: NL200 - Oh wait...Is that a stack-a-donk?
 
fold, but why the hell did you bet the turn

PBJaxx 01-02-2007 03:00 AM

Re: NL200 - Oh wait...Is that a stack-a-donk?
 
Yeah, I realize in retrospect that the turn bet was pretty bad.

BlackAMEX 01-02-2007 03:05 AM

Re: NL200 - Oh wait...Is that a stack-a-donk?
 
I like preflop:
We're sending him the message that we're going to call 3bets with a decent range in situations when it appears that we are 'stealing'. I wouldnt always do it, but after doing it a couple of times, I think the message is clear to a good TAG.

Also, his range could be fairly wide here even though he plays 20/13, as he could be on a standard resteal.

Flop: I like this too, as he's c-betting nearly every flop that comes down and this is basically the best flop we could hope for.

Turn: Check behind IMO. We gain nothing from betting (88-1010 fold too much imo OOP in this spot), and just leave ourselves with difficult decisions, such as in the hand you posted, if we bet. This is a great card for you and checking behind the turn makes this hand a whole lot easier for you on the river.

River: After checking the turn, I'm calling a decent river bet here or value betting if checked to. In this way, we get value from worse hands and bluffs.

The way you played it you HAVE to call now given pot odds.

Requin 01-02-2007 03:07 AM

Re: NL200 - Oh wait...Is that a stack-a-donk?
 
I'd either check the turn or shove. Call here I guess, big odds and if he has a smaller overpair that he's willing to felt he's probably going to shove it rather than just call.

Jamougha 01-02-2007 03:10 AM

Re: NL200 - Oh wait...Is that a stack-a-donk?
 
Check the turn. What did you expect him to do whan you bet, call???

Osprey 01-02-2007 03:20 AM

Re: NL200 - Oh wait...Is that a stack-a-donk?
 
No one thinks we're folding A-K here with the turn bet? Is it more important to control pot or fold A-K?

PBJaxx 01-02-2007 03:23 AM

Re: NL200 - Oh wait...Is that a stack-a-donk?
 
I completely agree that betting the turn was bad. Call or fold as played?

Claunchy 01-02-2007 03:24 AM

Re: NL200 - Oh wait...Is that a stack-a-donk?
 
I don't think you can fold now, but I seriously doubt you're ahead.


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