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youngmachetes 10-25-2007 12:44 AM

NL10- a few tough folds; thoughts?
 
villain in this hand was a pretty awful loose/passive player. he minraised frequently, and appeared to be calling 3-bets pretty light.

HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $20.40
Hero (BB): $12.60
UTG: $15.85
CO: $17.90
BTN: $10.20

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $0.20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.20</font>, SB calls $1

Flop: ($2.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.55</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $3.50</font>, Hero folds

Results: $5.50 Pot ($5.50 Rake)


villain in this hand was also loose/passive. i hadn't seen him get out of line thus far, and i am unsure of how he built his stack.

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HAND #2
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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $28.25
MP: $14.20
CO: $10.55
Hero (BTN): $10
SB: $44.50
BB: $11.80

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, SB calls $0.45, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.20) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $7.80</font>, Hero folds

Results: $4.70 Pot ($4.70 Rake)


i limped pf here because the initial limper was horrible. it definitely wasn't standard for me, and in retrospect i don't like it at all. i played this hand awful on all streets except the flop, imo. i think i should've flat the turn and flatted a river bet (or bet if checked to).

the main villain in this hand is unknown. what could i have done better (other than "fold pf")?

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HAND #3
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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $9.85
Hero (BTN): $9.70
SB: $11.60
BB: $17.40
UTG: $4.05
MP: $17.40

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO folds, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.10</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $0.90</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $11.40 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

Results: $6.60 Pot ($6.60 Rake)

Lego05 10-25-2007 12:47 AM

Re: NL10- a few tough folds; thoughts?
 
Hand 1: Can't fold that. Shove it...could be KK or AQ.


Hand 2: Can't fold that either. Could be a draw or a lower 2 pair. Shove it.


Hand 3: I probably wouldn't fold this either though it does look like a good chance of a higher flush.

creamfillin 10-25-2007 12:50 AM

Re: NL10- a few tough folds; thoughts?
 
All these folds are horrible except maybe hand #3 is close. You are VERY exploitable if you are constantly making folds like this.

youngmachetes 10-25-2007 12:53 AM

Re: NL10- a few tough folds; thoughts?
 
hand 2- yes it could be a draw or lower two pair. i folded with the reasoning that if he has two pair he has to have KJ/QJ (seems kinda unlikely) and if he has a draw it's most likely a huge one. i am obv. ahead of a combo draw, but that is like the best case scenario.

hand 3- what do you think of turn? do you like raise/flat then flat river?

hand 1-he had never raised b v b before. i felt like that weighted his range more toward QQ/JJ. i don't think he is 4-betting either of them pf. he 4-bets KK i would imagine, so i only really beat AQ. maybe people are all just awful at NL10, so i should just stack off with anything. i have been struggling with that. it's like, i think i find a realistic/good range to put my opponent on and then i always wonder if i'm just giving too much credit.

youngmachetes 10-25-2007 12:54 AM

Re: NL10- a few tough folds; thoughts?
 
i am not constantly making folds like this. if i were than they wouldn't be "tough."

youngmachetes 10-25-2007 12:55 AM

Re: NL10- a few tough folds; thoughts?
 
also, is my thought process horrible? (posted above)

youngmachetes 10-25-2007 12:56 AM

Re: NL10- a few tough folds; thoughts?
 
another thing about hand one...what loose/passive player c/raises AQ?

Lego05 10-25-2007 12:57 AM

Re: NL10- a few tough folds; thoughts?
 
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hand 3- what do you think of turn? do you like raise/flat then flat river?

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I don't think it really matters. I'd probably have reraised turn though like you did.

Lego05 10-25-2007 01:01 AM

Re: NL10- a few tough folds; thoughts?
 
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hand 2- yes it could be a draw or lower two pair. i folded with the reasoning that if he has two pair he has to have KJ/QJ (seems kinda unlikely) and if he has a draw it's most likely a huge one. i am obv. ahead of a combo draw, but that is like the best case scenario.

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

47,520 games 0.005 secs 9,504,000 games/sec

Board: Qs Kd Jd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.367% 54.30% 01.06% 25805 505.50 { KcQd }
Hand 1: 44.633% 43.57% 01.06% 20704 505.50 { QcQd, QcQh, QdQh, JcJh, JcJs, JhJs, AcKc, AhKh, AsKs, ATs, KhJh, KsJs, KcTc, KhTh, KsTs, QcJc, QhJh, QdTd, AcKh, AcKs, AdKc, AdKh, AdKs, AhKc, AhKs, AsKc, AsKh, ATo, KdJc, KdJh, KdJs, KhJc, KhJs, KsJc, KsJh, KcTd, KcTh, KcTs, KhTc, KhTd, KhTs, KsTc, KsTd, KsTh, QcJh, QcJs, QdJc, QdJh, QdJs, QhJc, QhJs }

youngmachetes 10-25-2007 01:05 AM

Re: NL10- a few tough folds; thoughts?
 
hm i should use pokerstove more often. i didn't have KT/AK in his range when the hand was being played, but in retrospect AK should def. be in there.


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