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Ole A 07-04-2007 09:43 PM

nl100 - KK - Standard?
 
UTG is 18/14/3

Is this a completly standard push or what? Its his betsizing on the flop that worries me..

Hero ($116.58)
CO ($77.50)
Button ($97.20)
SB ($76.62)
BB ($99.00)
UTG ($274.63)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $23</font>, Hero calls $17.

Flop: ($47.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?</font>

Unknown Soldier 07-04-2007 09:44 PM

Re: nl100 - KK - Standard?
 
any reads beasides this/history?

skiier04 07-04-2007 09:47 PM

Re: nl100 - KK - Standard?
 
I would just get it in preflop...

Unknown Soldier 07-04-2007 09:48 PM

Re: nl100 - KK - Standard?
 
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I would just get it in preflop...

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well yeah, but its fine to do this sometimes.

so as played?

Ole A 07-04-2007 09:48 PM

Re: nl100 - KK - Standard?
 
No, i didnt have a large sample against him, maby 100 hands or so. Hes been plaing snug, and has a big stack, so we`ll just have to assume hes good i think.

Unknown Soldier 07-04-2007 09:50 PM

Re: nl100 - KK - Standard?
 
nah he lrr he sucks

but he seems tight i either fold or call down i dont like pushing because villain is only drawing to 3 outs at most if hes behind. And he could be running a bluff

Not sure which yet though

Ole A 07-04-2007 09:50 PM

Re: nl100 - KK - Standard?
 
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I would just get it in preflop...

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I usually do, maby 15-20% of the time i call to jam a rag flop. Its the pot-bet on the flop im kinda worried about.. would he commit himself with a hand loosing to KK here?

skiier04 07-04-2007 10:07 PM

Re: nl100 - KK - Standard?
 
Have you been playing LAG?? If you've been raising pre very often I could see him doing this with a hand like AQ or even KQ... which you are way ahead of.

After the flop obviously AA/QQ have you crushed now... but I think we can discount QQ because of his large flop bet... you would think he would bet something smaller.

I think we see TT-JJ/Qx often enough to get it in here, if he has AA/QQ shrug it off and reload.

orange 07-04-2007 10:08 PM

Re: nl100 - KK - Standard?
 
meh whatever shove

FishSticks 07-04-2007 10:23 PM

Re: nl100 - KK - Standard?
 
Why didn't you repop preflop? If it was to slowplay and disguise the strength of your hand, folding to the bet you tried to induce isn't so great.

That said, until I learn differently I tend to assume a range of like QQ+ for UTG limp-reraising. Yes that tight. So, you are kind of in big trouble against that range. If JJ was in there I doubt it plays the flop like this, AhKh is out.


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