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Wilpro 11-12-2007 09:23 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I find losing 4+ buyins in 1000 hands really hard to deal with. No idea how people get stuck at the beginning of a session manage to keep playing for hours more, i just find my self closing all tables after too many bad beats.

PJo336 11-12-2007 09:25 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
not busto if ur a br nit

TheChad 11-12-2007 09:28 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
not busto if ur a br nit

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well, if you regularly take 30 bi swings, you probably should be a br nit. shot in the dark. or read a book, or something

PJo336 11-12-2007 09:33 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
books do nothing iv read like 10 and I blow

TheChad 11-12-2007 09:49 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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books do nothing iv read like 10 and I blow

[/ QUOTE ]

sn? LOL jk

edit: you're on 2p2, so you have to know something. lurk the higher forums.

starkwired 11-12-2007 09:52 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
-30 BIs at any level is waay more than you can chalk up to variance. Move down man. Even if you're still rolled for NL 100, 30 BIs is a lot and you shouldn't take it lightly. Play 50NL (or even 25NL if you're really feeling down), fix up your leaks, and rebuild your confidence.

[/ QUOTE ]

already moved down and I'm trying to regain confidence

creamfillin 11-12-2007 10:01 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Won 7 buyins over the weekend.
Lost them all today WOOOO

vixticator 11-12-2007 10:11 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
WTF is this line? I'm paying him off all the way if I miss, now I'm on tilt.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $29.15
BTN: $26.10
SB: $11.30
BB: $24.25
UTG: $20.60

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($8.10) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5

River: ($18.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $5</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $20.15 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $10.25 and is All-In

Results: $48.60 Pot ($2.35 Rake)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Jacks) and WON $46.25 (+$22 NET)
BB mucked 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$24.25 NET)

Micro Donk 11-12-2007 10:12 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
just flipped for $175

brag: won
variance: was with a friend, so winner transferred the $ back anyway
brag: biggest pot ever won

Chomp 11-12-2007 10:38 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I had a 25BI downswing at 50NL about 6 months ago. Mostly due to being horrible at pokering, but also due to running worse than I ever thought possible.

But whatever the exact reason, until you have been to the dark, dark place that is a losing streak this bad, you simply do not know the true meaning of poker pain. It is brutality beyond conception. It is ceaseless and it is nightmarish. And I no longer believe any of us average grinders/wannabees are immune from it.

The worst part for me was when I became Poker Dyslexic. Dyslexics who have trouble reading often report that they see the words on a page swimming and blurring before their eyes. The effect is that the dyslexic can't "get a grasp" of the word, and so it's meaning just slips away from them. Put a series of words together in a sentence and the problem is compounded.

Something very similar happened to me at the table. The cards and chips looked weird - I could stare at them and stare at them but they had completely lost any rational meaning and defied any interpretation. You are so punch-drunk, that you simply cannot process the value of your hand or the meaning of a bet. Everything is kind of a drunken blur in front of you. It is deeply, deeply weird and scary. Very scary in fact.

The good news is that once you have stared into this heart of darkness, everything is brighter afterwards.


Cliff Notes: Stop sucking and take your beats like a man/lady.

Micro Donk 11-12-2007 11:13 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
more thinking

is the minraise on turn/river really that bad? there seems to be a lot of cases where people would fold to a bigger raise, but for some reason many people just can not fold to a minraise. im thinking more of big pots where...say at 25NL, with 100bb effective stacks, someone bets $7, and you minraise to 14...they call them theyre pot committed to call the final few dollars...probably on more dry boards, wet boards its obv bad

of course im just a donk musing about random things

PJo336 11-12-2007 11:15 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I've had multiple 20+ downswings hence my loc
its a scary time especially when its cuz u run horribly as well as bad play

its like a hole u can't get out of

mocky 11-12-2007 11:21 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i recently switched from 1/2 FRFL to 6 max 25NL dropped 5 buyins in my first wk ive now grinded back to even at 10NL gonna stay here for another 5/10k hands then step up again.
Biggest problem im having is playing my draws OOP.

fozzy71 11-12-2007 11:36 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
i recently switched from 1/2 FRFL to 6 max 25NL dropped 5 buyins in my first wk ive now grinded back to even at 10NL gonna stay here for another 5/10k hands then step up again.
Biggest problem im having is playing my draws OOP.

[/ QUOTE ]

chk/call, chk/call(raise), check/fold(bet/win)

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

*Nice to have a heater for a change.

1hr (4-tabling), 327 hands = +5 BI's @ ~75 ptbb/100

C4LL4W4Y 11-12-2007 11:37 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i need to learn how to play again.

Wilpro 11-12-2007 11:38 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
I've had multiple 20+ downswings hence my loc
its a scary time especially when its cuz u run horribly as well as bad play

its like a hole u can't get out of

[/ QUOTE ]


How to people maintain the bankrolls when they have these -20buy in periods. I am down several buyins this week and now thinking i am going to have to drop back down limits. Am i naíve in thinking most 2+2 25nl and 50nl players have built their bankrolls through grinding, or are alot of people funding these massive downswings with outside money?

PJo336 11-12-2007 11:42 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
mines all my original buy in, havent rebought since i joined 2+2

good br management ftw!

thing85 11-12-2007 11:43 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I don't think I ever fund my account with outside money. I look at it this way: If I drop 20 BIs, I need to run ~5ptbb/100 over the next 40k hands and I'll make it back. That's usually around a month for me. So, after a huge downswing, you're usually looking at a month or so recovery period assuming you get back to playing poker well.

Micro Donk 11-12-2007 11:44 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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mines all my original buy in, havent rebought since i joined 2+2

good br management ftw!

[/ QUOTE ]

mines all from play money. $12 for 1.2 mil play chips. so ive never deposited.

btw i have an avatar now, you wont need to tilt anymore bout it

icanseeyourcards 11-12-2007 11:47 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
hi im back

JimboNYY24 11-12-2007 11:48 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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wow I suck at poker

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vixticator 11-12-2007 11:55 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I found something I can beat! Token sats, lol. Then I busto in the donkaments I use the tokens in. But so far 8/9 in token wins!

Bantam222 11-12-2007 11:57 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
mines all my original buy in, havent rebought since i joined 2+2

good br management ftw!

[/ QUOTE ]

mines all from play money. $12 for 1.2 mil play chips. so ive never deposited.

btw i have an avatar now, you wont need to tilt anymore bout it

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haha me too 500K play chips ----&gt; $5 ----&gt; robusto $3700

mocky 11-13-2007 12:04 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I've had multiple 20+ downswings hence my loc
its a scary time especially when its cuz u run horribly as well as bad play

its like a hole u can't get out of

[/ QUOTE ]


How to people maintain the bankrolls when they have these -20buy in periods. I am down several buyins this week and now thinking i am going to have to drop back down limits. Am i naíve in thinking most 2+2 25nl and 50nl players have built their bankrolls through grinding, or are alot of people funding these massive downswings with outside money?

[/ QUOTE ]


casino whoring.

PJo336 11-13-2007 12:05 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
mines all my original buy in, havent rebought since i joined 2+2

good br management ftw!

[/ QUOTE ]

mines all from play money. $12 for 1.2 mil play chips. so ive never deposited.

btw i have an avatar now, you wont need to tilt anymore bout it

[/ QUOTE ]
thank the lord
I saw ur post and didn't know it was u with an avatar

thing85 11-13-2007 12:12 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
mines all my original buy in, havent rebought since i joined 2+2

good br management ftw!

[/ QUOTE ]

mines all from play money. $12 for 1.2 mil play chips. so ive never deposited.

btw i have an avatar now, you wont need to tilt anymore bout it

[/ QUOTE ]
thank the lord
I saw ur post and didn't know it was u with an avatar

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Seriously, now I'll see an avatar and think that it isn't you. Now having an avatar is going to tilt me because I'm expecting to see you NOT have an avatar and tilt because of that. Essentially, I'm tilting because I'm not tilting in the way that I expected.

Micro Donk 11-13-2007 12:15 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
lol

thing85 11-13-2007 12:18 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Can we get an avatar of a naked girl maybe? That would kind of answer both poll options, so you need an all of the above option IMO.

Micro Donk 11-13-2007 12:19 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
mr. andrew robl covers that quite well. though not naked, but close

kylephilly 11-13-2007 12:25 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Looking for a respectfable, winning 10NL or 25NL to review or swap hand histories with, just looking for some input on my style.

If anyone is interested please pm me, thanks.

icanseeyourcards 11-13-2007 12:31 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Looking for a respectfable, winning 10NL or 25NL to review or swap hand histories with, just looking for some input on my style.

If anyone is interested please pm me, thanks.

[/ QUOTE ]

pm'ed

always wanted to do that

SkeetyMcdoogle 11-13-2007 12:36 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
fun downswing to climb out of, losing 21 buyins at NL50 blows

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5357/lolia4.jpg

icanseeyourcards 11-13-2007 12:38 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
PTH: ONLY FOUR TABLES YOU POS

you did that?!

kaz2107 11-13-2007 12:39 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
mr. andrew robl covers that quite well. though not naked, but close

[/ QUOTE ]im so confused. g2cu??

SkeetyMcdoogle 11-13-2007 12:42 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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PTH: ONLY FOUR TABLES YOU POS

you did that?!

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no, i thought too many tables was my problem but my main problem was actually thinking too many people were playing back at me. I solved this by playing 12-15 tables and not leaving time to think

thac 11-13-2007 12:42 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
PTH: ONLY FOUR TABLES YOU POS

you did that?!

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no, i thought too many tables was my problem but my main problem was actually thinking too many people were playing back at me. I solved this by playing 12-15 tables and not leaving time to think

[/ QUOTE ]

Ro-Ballin'

SkeetyMcdoogle 11-13-2007 12:45 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
all cus of those 6 hands you advised me on thac, turned the game around ;]

i wont forget you when the roll hits 100k

icanseeyourcards 11-13-2007 12:45 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
PTH: ONLY FOUR TABLES YOU POS

you did that?!

[/ QUOTE ]

no, i thought too many tables was my problem but my main problem was actually thinking too many people were playing back at me. I solved this by playing 12-15 tables and not leaving time to think

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah ... who in the world is able to play 4 tables microstakes... i would make some sick n stupid hero calls and try to bluff these guys

thac 11-13-2007 12:48 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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all cus of those 6 hands you advised me on thac, turned the game around ;]

i wont forget you when the roll hits 100k

[/ QUOTE ]

I still have the e-mail where you told me you would! You better not forget.

Micro Donk 11-13-2007 12:50 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
now i want to see those 6 hands


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