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Meraxes 11-14-2007 05:53 PM

Live 1/3 NL hand
 
I'm definitely still learning NL, so criticism of any kind is welcome (and expected.)

I started this hand with $210, in the CO. Villain has $115 in MP.

Villain I haven't played with much, but he's been drinking, and doesn't seem especially good or bad.

I'm dealt J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (in the CO).
One EP and two MP limpers, I limp, SB calls, BB checks.

Pot is $15 (6 players)
Flop comes J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Checked to villain, who bets $15, other MP calls, I raise to 45. Folds back to villain who goes all in for $70 more, other MP folds, pot is $190, $70 to me.

Call or no? I'll reveal the results later if I get any responses.

TheBad 11-14-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Live 1/3 NL hand
 
I would call, assuming that i have 10 outs, maybe 11-13.

sapol 11-14-2007 06:58 PM

Re: Live 1/3 NL hand
 
u have a bunch of outs, you're commited and there's still a small chance that you're ahead (in case opponent is a donk of course). CALL

gman339 11-14-2007 08:22 PM

Re: Live 1/3 NL hand
 
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pot is $190, $70 to me.


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I hate chasing straight draws (I'm assuming the J is no good here by itself) on flush draw boards because so often you find that not all your outs are good. But still for this price, against an all in you have to call here.

jjshabado 11-14-2007 09:31 PM

Re: Live 1/3 NL hand
 
Super easy call.

Lansingg 11-14-2007 09:52 PM

Re: Live 1/3 NL hand
 
call fo sho

TJ Eckleburg12 11-14-2007 10:00 PM

Re: Live 1/3 NL hand
 
Easy call.

The reason combo hands (pair + draw) are so awesome is they have a ton of equity against any kind of hand. We have 8 straight outs, but also trips + two pair outs to beat overpairs. The only hand you're in BAD shape to is QT.

jjshabado 11-14-2007 10:10 PM

Re: Live 1/3 NL hand
 
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Easy call.

The reason combo hands (pair + draw) are so awesome is they have a ton of equity against any kind of hand. We have 8 straight outs, but also trips + two pair outs to beat overpairs. The only hand you're in BAD shape to is QT.

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Yeah, I'm willing to bet some good money that villain had QT.

ClubChamp04 11-14-2007 10:32 PM

Re: Live 1/3 NL hand
 
I'm not sure if I love raising it here with his stack size but once you do it's a

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Super easy call.

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Meraxes 11-14-2007 10:46 PM

Re: Live 1/3 NL hand
 
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I'm not sure if I love raising it here with his stack size but once you do it's a

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Super easy call.

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I felt like I might be able to get hands like QJ, KJ, or some weak drawing hands to fold. Maybe I was being overly optimistic. Anyone else recommend flat calling the $15?


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